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  • jp26olemiss jp26olemiss Apr 7, 2006 7:45 PM Flag

    OT: Peter the Archeologist?

    Peter:

    Read on the THE board, which my Pater rode up 10% the last four days, (how do he and gh time the the market like this?)that you were trained as an archeologist. Ditez-moi, porquoi, why you abandoned such a noble calling to chase the Yankee dollar.
    very OT for PV and APB-- one of my neighbors asked me when I was in school if Massachussetts was part of the US. I answered in the affirmative, and he looked at me like I was funnin' him. Folks I grew up around thought that Memphis was were the North began.

    JP

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    • JP,

      Yep, I always thought that Poor Boy was a darn yankee (LOL, as they say). You can tell one by how bad they want to get at the nickel you've been squeezing all those years.

      Gave up wanting to be an archaeologist when NSF money for esoteric research dried up in the late 60's and when the graduate students that I was taking classes with were telling me that the tenured ranks were full of 40 year old guys with plenty of miles left on them and that the only work was teaching introductory anthropology at a state teachers college. That is valuable, honest and important work but it is not what I had envisioned that I would do which was to do primary research at an institution that had plenty of folks doing similar research.

      Most of my fellow Near Eastern Archaeologist friends from that period, additionally, haven't been able to excavate in the last quarter century and the only one who has, Dick Meadow, of the Harappa Archaeological Project hasn't been able to go back for 5 years and doubts that he ever will again.

      Regards,

      Peter

    • Mason-Dixon Line, boundary between Pennsylvania and Maryland (running between lat. 39�43'26.3?N and lat. 39�43'17.6?N), surveyed by the English team of Charles Mason, a mathematician and astronomer, and Jeremiah Dixon, a mathematician and land surveyor, between 1763 and 1767. The ambiguous description of the boundaries in the Maryland and Pennsylvania charters led to a protracted disagreement between the proprietors of the two colonies, the Penns of Pennsylvania and the Calverts of Maryland. The dispute was submitted to the English court of chancery in 1735. A compromise between two families in 1760 resulted in the appointment of Mason and Dixon. By 1767 the surveyors had run their line 244 mi (393 km) west from the Delaware border, every fifth milestone bearing the Penn and Calvert arms. The survey was completed to the western limit of Maryland in 1773; in 1779 the line was extended to mark the southern boundary of Pennsylvania with Virginia (present-day West Virginia). Before the Civil War the term �Mason-Dixon Line� popularly designated the boundary dividing the slave states from the free states, and it is still used to distinguish the South from the North.

      GH

    • Memphis is delta southern. Knoxville is where they think they are educated and want to be Yankees. They even go by Yankee time. A little book learning can mess some people up.
      The poor folks in Tennessee are being wiped out by storms. Another eleven killed yesterday. I have been researching storm rooms. I would like to have my own private dog house.
      Peter a friend is sending me four books on the early American Indians that are written by Archeologist. Surpose to follow their migration from the West to the East Coast. I should receive them Tuesday. I am really looking forward to reading them.
      Have I been able to work into one of my post my favorite commie? Anyway, whoever he was, he ain't alive. What is that saying, the best one is a dead one or the dead one is the best one? The Arkansas Poor Boy

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      • APB:

        Very nice response. One of my major teaching regrets is something that I allowed to happen in my survey class when I was in graduate school. I asked the class to define "Southerness" both culturally and geographically. The consensus view was that in 1993 only Mississippi and Alabama could be considered truly Southern as states, with pockets existing in Ark, La, SC and South Georgia. A nice young lady from TN, who belonged to the Chi Omegas was almost on the verge of tears, trying to defend the Volunteer State. Also had unfair sport with my students in N.Georgia whose g,g, grandaddies had been Union sympathizers and who presently brandished the stars and bars on their pickups. All of this very unfair and inconsiderate on my part to their burgeoning sense of identity and imagined community.
        Nous Sommes Tous Du Sud, pour bien et mal.

        JP

    • peter, cajun is right, st francesville is beyond compare. we own part of pointe coupee a few miles north and when i was about 9 while hunting squirrels one morning there, at dawn a pileated which had a 6 foot wingspan started scolding the world and flew into a tall widow maker about 10 yards in front of me and 40 feet overhead. the biggest woodpecker i have ever seen and i saw the ivory bill specimens in the drawers at the LSU ornithology museum. (my roomate was john farrand, you know of his grandfather, the klickitat authority).

      see how just thinking of that area can make you poetic?
      i posted the 2 articles from the wsj on the claytie board, but the thing in my mind right now is:

      i think carl rove is really giving bush the best way out, the guy who could not even answer the question of who ran what country is now taking questions from the floor at the johns hopkins advanced school, he did good, lincoln is what people think of when they think of this country and they are selling it. just need al jazeera to show it and interprete it fairly.

    • Dm and Chuck,

      Lots of interesting responses to this thread. I wonder how much of one's perception of what the world ought to look like is a function of what one appreciated about the world in one's youth?

      It is true that I began life in an extraordinarily rural place but much of my youth was spent in another place in transition from rural to suburban. For Chuck, heres an article about the difficulties of keeping it all together in nearly forgotten parts of the world and his nearest local Cheese Museum. I used to do business in Utica and can remember when the only restaurants left downtown were (I think) the Scotsman and a McDonalds. I flew in and out of Utica-Rome on Mr. Quackenbush's (Empire Air?) 22 passenger Swearingens for a few years.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/10/nyregion/10cheese.html?ex=1144900800&en=66e080
      b21ee7fd63&ei=5087


      Regards,

      Peter

    • "I wonder how much of one's perception of what the world ought to look like is a function of what one appreciated about the world in one's youth?"

      I never appreciated life in a small town when I was a youth. That evolved over several decades as an adult. That appreciation may be built more on a foundation of myth than reality, but the abode is safe and comfortable and I will not leave.

      Cuba, NY!!! When I was a kid our milk was home delivered in quart size glass bottles, heavy cream on the top. It came from the Cuba Dairy.

      What did your company own in Utica? I'm guessing the 258 Building or the Boston Store parking garage.

    • Chuck,

      Excellent guess. For a brief period in the mid to late 70's before the bankruptcy I was the operator of the Boston Store garage and the open lot that was just off the main drag. We also had all of the City contracts to operate the parking facilities in Corning and Elmira. We got these by buying a small Syracuse operator, Dutch Parking in '77.

      Matts Premium and Utica Club--decent beers actually.

      I can't say that I miss traveling to Utica. Not a lot to do there. Talk about how things change--all of the old New York up-state mill towns near the Erie Canal were once some of the wealthiest places in the US. I once went into a mansion on Delaware Avenue in Buffalo that had it's original gold leafed walls in three of the principal rooms.

      Same as the Connecticut and Massachusetts and Maine mill towns--after WWII, the lack of cometitiveness vis a vis other lower cost states. You probably scrapped millions of tons of once highly productive equipment that sold for pennies a pound.

      Regards,

      Peter

    • "You probably scrapped millions of tons of once highly productive equipment that sold for pennies a pound."

      Peter it seems like the past thirty years has seen most of Upstate NY scrapped. I know we did our share of it and on a good contract got $120/gross ton prepared and delivered to the smelter. If you netted $5/gross ton, then you did fine.

      Haven't been back to Utica since I left in 1979. Lived there for twelve years and it's like a town you drove through after taking a wrong turn on a trip. You just don't care if you ever see it again.

      You can have the UC beer, but I'll take an original set of Schultz and Dooley mugs any day.

    • Chuck, JP et al,

      Platts apparently is arguing for CR +1.2, MG -2 and D -1.6.

      Tanker rates have continued down so I guess that could happen.

      JP, the anthropology department at Harvard was an extraordinarily diverse place in the 60's. On the ethnography side our top person was, I think, David Maybury Lewis who approach and thinking was similar to E. E. Evans Pritchard. But most of us in the department--especially the archaeologists-- had wander-lust and strayed off into evolutionary biology, ethology, primate studies and the like.

      Of my friends, for example, Bill Rathje went on to study garbage as a theoretical archaeologist and Dick Meadow became a zooarchaeologist.

      Regards,

      Peter

    • PV et al,

      A rather odd but interesting report, I think. CR +3.2, MG -3.9, D -4.2.

      Refinery utilization helps to explain part of the latter two as it dropped slightly to 85.6%. Imports of Crude actually fell 414 mbbls./day over prior so the relatively large build is less easy to understand.

      Demand at MG is said to be up 1.2% y-o-y while, on the same basis, D is down 3.8%.

      Regards,

      Peter

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