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  • pddane_01929 pddane_01929 Jun 4, 2008 10:48 AM Flag

    DOE Commentary

    All,

    A surprising continuation of the trends of the last month. CR -4.8, MG +2.9, D +2.3, RU 89.7%. Imports are a relatively low 9.8 mmbbls/day (but much higher than last week) for crude but a robust 1.3 mmbbls/day of motor gasoline.

    Demand at motor gasoline just fell off a cliff at-1.4% and that number needs to be watched. D demand is said to be +1.6%.

    Regards,

    Peter

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    • but does the above justify the cop's actions without what appears to be any warning to the biker to stop? >av

      Key words: "appears to be." The video doesn't tell us what happened prior to the incident.

      and even then the answer could be "yes". The danger to the public and the cyclist himself from forcing drastic action by motorists trumps the danger of the cyclist being knocked to the ground.

      If he just picked someone at random to knock on his ass he should be disciplined.

    • On the other hand....Japan, at least, has made large strides away from bikes. Still very large numbers in use, but significantly down over the past 20 years.

    • >>According to what I heard on the news last night, there's another video that's been turned over that shows the bicyclist weaving in and out of traffic, causing drivers to suddenly stop and pull to the side and ignoring officers commands to stop.

      If true that puts the incident in a different light.<

      but does the above justify the cop's actions without what appears to be any warning to the biker to stop?<

      and also justify in the cop filing a completely false incident report of where he was knocked over by the bicyclist when the video clearly shows at no time was the officer ever down, etc, etc...?

    • >According to what I heard on the news last night, there's another video that's been turned over that shows the bicyclist weaving in and out of traffic, causing drivers to suddenly stop and pull to the side and ignoring officers commands to stop.

      If true that puts the incident in a different light.<

      but does the above justify the cop's actions without what appears to be any warning to the biker to stop?

    • If our streets start to look like some Far Eastern streets in terms of bicycle populations we're going to have to develop a whole different set of ideas about how everyone should interact safely. And it would be a very good thing if our streets did look that way. We'd have a much leaner population and we'd have cleaner air and cheaper gasoline. >pddane

      Europe cities too, at least in summer. I have no problem with making our cities more bicycle friendly. It would be a good thing for the reasons you mention and more.

      I do have a problem with behavior of groups like Critical Mass that at their best inconvenience regular people and at their worst harass them, and damage their property.

      I experienced a parallel situation last summer flying, or attempting to fly back home from Arizona. Northwest pilots were unhappy, according to them overworked, underpaid, and so on.
      The day I was scheduled to fly they had a "sick out" and simply didn't show up. They literally inconvenienced and in many cases caused hardship, distress, and expense for literally thousands of travellers.

      The lady in front of me in the line at the ticket counter missed her brother's funeral. Any sympathy I might have had for the concerns of the pilots vanished when they treated the paying public depending on them that way.

    • To return to the policeman in question, however, we do have footage that shows the officer select an individual cyclist out of a pack and then man-handle him in such a way as to create a danger to both the cyclist, the officer himself and bystanders. So, we have a police officer doing something which is demonstrably not in the interest of public safety. That simply isn't acceptable. >pddane

      That may be the case and it may not. The short clip isn't sufficient to warrant that conclusion. The clip shows the officer knocking the rider off his bike, not what led up to it or what danger the rider was posing to motorists and the public.

      It has been alleged the bicyclist was forcing drastic and dangerous action by motorists to avoid him, including abrupt stops and forcing them to swerve suddenly off the road and/or into other lanes of traffic. It has been alleged he refused commands from officers. If that's true, the officer acted appropriately.

      If the officer simply singled out a rider to knock on his ass, he didn't and should face disciplinary action.


      I think every law enforcement officer deserves the benefit of the doubt until all the facts are known.

    • Big River,

      You are right that it is very likely that the cyclist was a member of a Critical Mass ride. I don't know about another video but I will tell you that I've been in NY several times and the Critical Mass folks can be reasonably disruptive but also reasonably thought provoking at the same time. To show you what an astonishing source of information Wikipedia has become here's their very well balanced article on the subject:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

      To return to the policeman in question, however, we do have footage that shows the officer select an individual cyclist out of a pack and then man-handle him in such a way as to create a danger to both the cyclist, the officer himself and bystanders. So, we have a police officer doing something which is demonstrably not in the interest of public safety. That simply isn't acceptable.

      I have some sympathy with the Critical Mass folks although I decidedly would not approach the idea in anything like the manner that they do. Anyone who routinely rides bicycles in a City knows that the dangers are everywhere because motorists don't pay attention unless they have a vehicle with a large mass near or next to them and that you have to be super-aware at all times. I know many cyclists who have been "car doored", run off the street by a turning car or nearly run over in clearly labelled bike lanes. Every year, in nearly every major metropolitan area, significant numbers of cyclists are killed by bigger vehicles

      http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/08/14/new-york-times-under-reports-cyclist-fatalities/

      Some significant numbers of the Critical Mass folks in NY may well be bicycle messengers. By and large, I have the same problem with bicycle messengers that I have with urban motorists--they don't respect the legitimate safety issues of others including pedestrians who should be primary in everyone's mind because they are clearly the most vulnerable (no helmets, not going very fast, etc).

      This will be more of an issue over time. I am told by some of my friends who commute by bicycle that this form of getting to work has about doubled in popularity this year. If our streets start to look like some Far Eastern streets in terms of bicycle populations we're going to have to develop a whole different set of ideas about how everyone should interact safely. And it would be a very good thing if our streets did look that way. We'd have a much leaner population and we'd have cleaner air and cheaper gasoline.

      Regards,

      Peter

    • watch out for that cop that likes to blast people of their bikes.
      see my previous postings. >av

      More to the story than the quick video clip-why am I not surprised?

      Every picture might tell a story, but as they don't show what took place prior to the picture(video), they often don't tell the whole story.

      You see the video and here's some poor guy just riding a bike getting knocked to the ground. Turns out this wasn't just some bicyclist out for a ride, but a participant in a group called "Critical Mass", sort of an anarchists on bikes group/movement that disrupt and halt traffic and on many occasions harass motorists and vandalize their vehicles.The officers were on the scene because the city of NY is acting to curtail their disruptions.

      According to what I heard on the news last night, there's another video that's been turned over that shows the bicyclist weaving in and out of traffic, causing drivers to suddenly stop and pull to the side and ignoring officers commands to stop.

      If true that puts the incident in a different light.

    • unless there is a new fundamental fact to think about like the Israelis actually going on the offensive. (I don't believe that they will because the potential fallout from such an attack could absolutely sink any chance of a Republican success in the fall.)>pddane

      That's 180 degrees from the oft voiced conventional wisdom which is that serious foreign policy crisis help McCain.

      I don't have a guess what Israel will do. Given the turmoil in Israel I don't think Israel knows what it's going to do IF it concludes Iran is on the verge of producing nuclear weapons.

    • I played with a guy from Intervale Capital which is a smallish boutique hedge fund investing in privately held oil field service companies. Whoo boy, was that fellow optimistic about their future! I'm going to meet with the principals in a couple of weeks to talk shop.


      Well they certainly have been pumping up that bunch with this offshore exploration talk. I read somewhere today about how safe it is now to drill in the Artic. Well that might be true but we still have to move the stuff around with drunkards and such. I quess they didnt read the news of a unqualified captain towing a 600ft tanker and tboning a barge dumping about a half a million gallons of gunk stuff in the Mississippi river.


      http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/Mississippi_River_Oil_Spill

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