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  • tradedollarnut tradedollarnut Oct 6, 2001 12:11 AM Flag

    coin grading

    So the coins we are debating are the ones that have a 2 - 2 tie between 64 and 65. Then the finalizer comes along and decides. These are coins where the finest experts in the coin grading arena can't decide (tie) and they throw it to the finalizer. You have to admit that in this case, expanding to the full bourse floor, that half the experts would say 64 and half would say 65. So it would not be immediately apparent that the finalizer had tipped slightly toward upgrading. (How do you think the MS range got moved upward over the past 4-5 years from 67 max to 69 max)?

    Anyway, let's just agree to disagree. I'm more interested in your 1794 story. What was the pedigree? That's a fantastic coin to have owned! My compliments. Never knew there was a 78CC that nice out there - certainly would like to add it to my set!

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    • Tradedollarnut,
      Are you familar with the Lord Oswald peice?
      It had some rim damage. Where it was dropped.
      I know it sounds like another story, but seems right to me. Was a long time ago.
      I was working for Jonathan Hefferlin at the time. Buying coins at the ANA I believe. From Larry Goldberg. For some reason I bought the coin for $127,500. We were all over the TV in Los Angeles. Did a ton of business from it.
      Bobby Hughes called me and wanted to buy the coin. Jonathan would not sell at a small profit. I was for selling and looking for a new major rarity to purchase. The coin was recognized as the finest known at the time. Gene Sanders thought I should dip it. From what I know now, I would have used acetone and a q-tip. Jonathan put it on auction because he needed money so bad. No protection. It brought 75K and flopped right after the auction. Kind of a rigged deal. Jonathan had pissed several dealers off. Long story. It was also called the Gilhousen specimen. Probably spelled the name wrong. That is the best I can remember today.
      Had a guy bring a complete set of large cents to me. All BU........ with a little color. So before he came down he cleaned them all with a brillo pad to get the color off. I threw him out of the store.
      Terrible T

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