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  • juniorsclassmate1 juniorsclassmate1 Jun 7, 2013 12:55 PM Flag

    Congressional Republicans are shocked, outraged, to find out they have supported data gathering all along

     

    they voted for the patriot act, they were briefed on what was going on..but NOW THEY ARE JUST OUTRAGED.....LMAO at the phony azzzzsssholes

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    • The Scandal Is Congress, Not the NSA

      June 6th, 2013 2:41 pm Joshua Foust
      But 2008 wasn’t the first or even the last time Congress approved expansive surveillance authorities. In the original 2001 USA PATRIOT Act, the law permitted the government to collect data previously forbidden. During the Bush administration, scandals erupted over the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel issuing secret interpretations of U.S. law – torture, extraordinary rendition, surveillance and drone strikes all are supported by secret legal arguments locked up in the White House.

      Rather than challenging the administration’s authority to secretly interpret and enact laws, however, Congress instead twice authorized them to keep everything a secret. Last year, Ron Wyden, a Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, tried to prohibit secret legal rulings. He got voted down. That same year Senator Jeff Merkley, also a Democrat, added his own amendment to the renewal of the 2008 wiretapping law. His amendment was voted down by a strong margin in both parties.

      So this latest outcry over expansive surveillance is really the culmination of over a decade of lawmaking. All three branches of government – the court order was approved by a FISA court – and both parties, in two administrations, have agreed consistently to enable and protect the practice.

      An action’s legality does not make it wise. While extensive datasets are useful for doing pattern analysis, there is a legitimate fear that the government is expanding the terms of its surveillance unreasonably. That is an important debate that should have happened publicly already – back in 2001, or 2008, or 2012. Neither Congress nor the White House helped its cause by doing everything so secretively.

    • Americans are not THAT dumb. GOP pukes are gonna get merked in 2014...

 
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