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  • igmos00 igmos00 May 13, 2009 8:46 PM Flag

    Obama sticking to cap and trade without

    charting a viable path to lower emissions. Talking green energy is not enough.

    Implicitly what this is saying is that alternative energies will be made more competitive by making energy more expensive. But there is a very large problem with this rationale. Before the alternatives being considered become competitive OPEC can simply increase production and lower the price. Not to mention the stress to the system.

    If you want to try that you still need insurance in the likely case that it won't work. You buy it with more nuclear and more gas, which do fit with the climate agenda. And yes global warming is real.

    This is pretty clear.

    Just my opinion

    Just

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    • Seems like we learned decades ago that plants/trees thrive on carbon dioxide and emit oxygen; humans do the opposite.....thrive on oxygen and emit carbon dioxide.

    • Ok this took a while but as I suspected Obama is not against nuclear power. From a recent speech in Prague:

      And we should build a new framework for civil nuclear cooperation, including an international fuel bank, so that countries can access peaceful power without increasing the risks of proliferation. That must be the right of every nation that renounces nuclear weapons, especially developing countries embarking on peaceful programs. And no approach will succeed if it's based on the denial of rights to nations that play by the rules. We must harness the power of nuclear energy on behalf of our efforts to combat climate change, and to advance peace opportunity for all people.

    • We know we have a higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere but the fact is that there is nobody on this earth that has any idea what level of impact that has on global temperatures and the enviroment. The global warming alarmists have no answer to that and thats why they have to keep saying over and over that there is no real scientific debate, trying to mislead the uniformed.

    • Just my opinion

    • caseynpg319@ymail.com caseynpg319 May 14, 2009 4:51 PM Flag

      Is Global Warming as real as The Ozone Hole?

      • 2 Replies to caseynpg319
      • Both are real. The ozone hole will not raise temperatures. It is a question of the exposure to UV radiation and the potential health ramifications from that.

        Global warming has the potential to change climate of the Earth. A different story...

      • I agree Igmos, I too hope that this president will listen and be open to all sources of energy production. This president does not really govern from the political center though and I am afraid he will not lead and break rank with the extreme environmentalist left of his party. Cap and trade is extreme in my view. No disrespect to our former vp but if Obama follows Mr. Gore and the Sierra Club on energy policy he will be back in Chicago in four years.
        No one on the political left or right is for climate change or polution but our leaders need to look at realistic solutions to our energy needs and stop the alarmist fear mongoring.

    • I am, btw, an Obama supporter.

      • 2 Replies to igmos00
      • Interesting thoughts you have on cap and trade. I think cap and trade is poor energy policy and will create higher energy costs to consumers which will then reduce discretionary spending and create yet another head wind for our weak economy. Cap and trade is really just an energy tax designed to make hydrocarbons less competitive with green alternatives. Nuclear is safe, clean, and cost effective. Same for NG for transportation. I am personaly not sold on the idea of man-made global warming. BTW...It is highly unlikely I will be voting for Obama in 2012. Good luck.

 
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