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  • tradert000 tradert000 Sep 21, 2005 11:00 AM Flag

    Hoku should be going up..last time to

    get a great price for a promising stock..from 150 million to over two billion projected.

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    • ...if there will be anyone on this thread who actually knows anything about fuel cells. Probably not. I do, as my posts going back seven years on FCEL, BLDP, PLUG and others shows. My take on HOKU? It has a decent enough PEM membrane. But even if it has the best membrane ever to be invented, PEM fuel cells have almost no chance of being useful to anyone for anything for many years, other than some tiny niche markets. The cost of a fuel cell powered car is still close to $1M each. It could come way down and still generate no demand. And who is going to invest in hydrogen filling stations if there aren't any cars to use them? Oh, and BTW, where do you think hydrogen comes from? It gets produced from natural gas--so H2 is a fossil fuel as much as gasoline is, and high natural gas prices are raising the price of H2. PEM fuel cells are also useless for stationary power, since their efficiency is so low, along with the same issues of hydrogen cost, supply, and delivery. Net effect: HOKU will plod along for years selling small amounts of its membranes for research purposes, but never amount to more than that.

      • 3 Replies to CSMultrum
      • Excellent post!

        CSMultrum, can I ask you a question. How do we know HOKU's membrane do have overall better performance? To my knowledge nobody else has published any performance data. Even the prospectus states that all of the claims are based on their own internal testing.

        Do we know if there are some potential drawbacks associated with their technology versus industry standard? Like any good marketers, they are only going to publish the positives, never the negatives. If we want the truth we need to ask one of their competitors.


        p.s. By the way, I like you cannot believe how many people DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE HYDROGEN WILL COME FROM for fuel cells. I have asked many intelligent people (not engineers, but your typical John Q. Public) and I either get a blank stare or the other the answer that I really love.... We'll get it from water! (ignoring of course the fact that it will take more energy to split the molecule than we would ever be able to recover). The ignorance of speculators never ceases to amaze me.

    • I am going to buy. Just not now. I'll wait utill there is more blood drained out this babe.

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