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  • drakenman23 drakenman23 Oct 8, 2008 10:56 PM Flag

    Be VERY Careful!

    Can anyone verify this?

    Background: the First Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, three to four thousand soldiers, has been deployed in the United States as of October 1. Their stated mission is the form of crowd control they practiced in Iraq, subduing "unruly individuals," and the management of a national emergency. I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.

    Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on U.S. Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

    George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military to patrol the U.S. He has also legally established that in the "War on Terror," the U.S. is at war around the globe and thus the whole world is a battlefield. Thus the U.S. is also a battlefield.


    read the entire article at:

    http://www.alternet.org/rights/101958/?page=entire

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    • kay..

    • we can agree to disagree then!

      what i can agree with you on is that, if the shit popped off, i would be right there beside you defending our freedom. even if i think you're a bit nutty ;-)

    • Well, transvers, that is promising. First of all, I too distrust paranoia, although this may be a "Yossarian moment" (the novel Catch 22). Your point about Kennesaw is well taken. I do not, however, believe that "your average medium sized US town of 20,000 or so" would be any match at all for 5000 trained troops. You believe, and I hope, that those undoubtedly patriotic men and women would "never attack their own citizens"

    • rather than doing as you suggest and "reading into it" i will take it at face value.

      i have a gun. plenty of americans do. i live in georgia (where these troops are) and many, many people have shotguns, semi-autos, and more. in fact, in a town just north of atlanta (kennesaw) it is A LAW THAT ALL HOMEOWNERS MUST HAVE A GUN.

      it is absurd to think that 5000 troops (who are all patriotic americans) are going to make even a dent in your average medium sized US town of 20,000 or so.

      i am not as paranoid as some, mostly because i am armed, i know many army men and women (and they would never attack their own citizens), and because 5000 troops would be cannon fodder against a grassroots american militia. we like our guns for a reason.

    • Spend some more time on Google, then "my friend" -- here (from Wikipedia):

      Recent legislative events
      HR5122 also known as the John Warner Defense Authorization Act was signed by the president on Oct 17, 2006 John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007. Section 1076 Text of Hr5122 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". Removing the legalese from the text, and combining multiple sentences, it provides that: The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any state of the United States the president determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. The actual text is on page 322-323 of the legislation. As of 2008, these changes were repealed, changing the text of the law back to the original 1878 wording, under Public Law 110-181 (H.R. 4986, Section 1068,) however in signing H.R. 4986 into law President Bush attached a signing statement which indicated that the Executive Branch did not feel bound by the changes enacted by the repeal.


      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      President Bush Signs H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 into Law

      Today, I have signed into law H.R. 4986, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008. The Act authorizes funding for the defense of the United States and its interests abroad, for military construction, and for national security-related energy programs.

      Provisions of the Act, including sections 841, 846, 1079, and 1222, purport to impose requirements that could inhibit the President's ability to carry out his constitutional obligations to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, to protect national security, to supervise the executive branch, and to execute his authority as Commander in Chief. The executive branch shall construe such provisions in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President.

      GEORGE W. BUSH

      THE WHITE HOUSE,

      January 28, 2008.

      Read that carefully: the executive branch shall construe such provisions in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH CAN INTERPRET THE "REGULATIONS" HOWEVER THE HELL THEY WANT.

    • mauricemah@sbcglobal.net mauricemah Oct 9, 2008 5:57 PM Flag

      as if we don't have enough to worry about. do me and all of us a faver. Take u Moth$$r Fuck%%^^n azz out of this board and leav us the Fu$%^k alone. Bitc^^%h

    • Hey stupid, where did you come up with this conspiracy theory?

    • Obama will go into the election with overwhelming public support, and McCain will win anyway. The troops are here to control the chaos that results when people realize the election process was rigged all along. IMO.

    • Drak we have plenty of unruly cops out there that could do this and would probably love the opportunity to do so.

      Military is too tied up right now for crowd control in the US.

      boy this bailout package is really working wonders isn't it? 7 days straight triple digit losses!

      Rich get richer, poor get poorer and the middle man gets phucked for trying!

    • God you are a dope.
      Bush is the least of your worries.

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