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Let's not forget that Aleo was the CEO of another organic fertilizer company. I don't believe that company is still around. I'm not trying to rail against Aleo and with all due respect, Hoggey, we don't know that he could be the right CEO either. Calling for Ed's head is counterconstructive right now. The only bit of information I am interested in right now is where WB stands and when will we get to design capacity. i'm also one who strongly believes there is no salesman who isn't expendable.