trying..you may be correct. I was looking at investing a good sum in this stock but I was warned to stay away by someone in the know. I trust the source so I will not be investing. Honolulu may be okay as long as he doesn't get burnt and not able to get out. Honestly I'm beginning to believe long term trades in small stocks are a waste, much more money to be made with short term trading the ups and downs. Honolulu look at some of the China coal stocks if you want short term big swings. LLEN has been great over the last 2 weeks if you like volatility.