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  • pac257 pac257 Oct 8, 2013 2:58 PM Flag

    Vote The American Taliban OUT OF CONGRESS IN 2014

    Just like the republican leadership lies that Social Security and Medicare would be bad for you, so is the current republican leadership lie that Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act) is bad for you.

    Republicans Hate Obamacare Because They're Afraid People Will Like It
    Oct. 2, 2013

    "The Republicans hate Obamacare, Porter suggests, because they're terrified that Americans are going to like it.

    Specifically, they're terrified that some of the tens of millions of Americans who will have greater access to health insurance under Obamacare will realize that the new law is actually not going to destroy the country — that, in fact, it is going to improve life for tens of millions of Americans, including, importantly, many who vote Republican.

    Many of the Americans who will benefit from Obamacare, Porter points out, are relatively poor red-state Republicans who are currently devout supporters of the Republican Party. For decades, the Republican pitch to these voters has been that "less government is better." If Obamacare works the way it is supposed to, however, it's possible that "more government" might actually seem to be better — and that many die-hard Republican voters might realize that.

    After all, even now, before Obamacare has really gotten going, Americans actually very much like the specific benefits of Obamacare — as long as you don't call it "Obamacare."

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    It's time that working class republicans (especially in Red states) get over their Obama phobia and understand that (in this case) the Black guy is THE GOOD GUY. Stop voting AGAINST YOUR OWN FAMILY'S BEST INTERESTS just because he's a Black American democrat.

    Still, it's NOT republicans so much as.... It's the insane, extreme right wing LEADERSHIP of the current republican party:

    THE AMERICAN TALIBAN

    Good luck to all good people.

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    • FAIR DUES:

      Even though the republican party INSANELY voted to shutdown the Government, it is noteworthy that all the republican women in Congress JOINED THE DEMOCRATS and voted to REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT.

      That's 100% of the women in Congress voted to REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT.

      Meanwhile, 62% of the republican men VOTED TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN!!

      Women are over 51% of the population, but less than 19% of Congress.

      Dudes: This is EXTREMELY embarrassing.... The women KICKED OUR HINEY 100 to 62.

      Evidently, the men are subject to a RIGHT WING TESTOSTERONE INDUCED EGO DISORDER.

      REGARDLESS OF PARTY.... WE NEED A LOT MORE WOMEN IN CONGRESS.

      Good luck to all good people.

    • In case the IGNORANT EXTREME RIGHT WING (who obviously NEVER REALLY READ THE CONSTITUTION) missed the resolution of this INSANE REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN:
      Just as The Constitution says, CONGRESS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PASSING LEGISLATION. The President CAN'T SIGN LEGISLATION if the Congress refuses to do its job and PASS LEGISLATION and send it to the President TO SIGN.
      THE GOOD NEWS IS:
      Every democrat in the House of Representatives VOTED TO REOPEN THE GOVERNMENT and IT PASSED
      285 to 144 and the President signed it to end this insanity. Plus there are still a few reasonable republicans left in the House of Representatives, but ONLY 87 of them voted to reopen the Government (144 "NO" votes were ALL REPUBLICANS) after they VOTED FOR THE ORIGINAL SHUTDOWN STUPIDITY in the first place. Still, that proves that NOT ALL of the great party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan, was hijacked by The American Taliban that is also trying to hijack American democracy.
      THE BAD NEWS IS:
      An incredible 144 House of Representative and 18 Senate republican lunatics, anarchists, traitors and confederate secessionists VOTED TO CONTINUE THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul VOTED TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. These morons ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES, THEY ARE INSANE!
      No President, republican or democrat, should have to put up with this TREASON EVERY FEW MONTHS and neither should the American people. I don't care if you are republican, democrat or independent:
      ANYONE CRAZY ENOUGH TO SHUT DOWN AND DEFAULT THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is VERY CLEARLY NOT TO BE TRUSTED BY ANYONE WHO LOVES DEMOCRACY. Over 600,000 Americans died TO SAVE DEMOCRACY in the struggle of The Civil War. The Civil War is over - the traitors LOST and DEMOCRACY WON. People who do not respect The United States Constitution HAVE NO BUSINESS IN CONGRESS.
      VOTE THESE EXTREME RIGHT WING FANATICS OUT OF THE CONGRESS IN 2014

    • Really hard to resist the urge to respond to your post.... First off, this is not the appropriate venue for politics, which would include your psycho babbling ramblings of progressive talking points. If I wanted to be 'generous' I would say you are uninformed about the facts and drinking way too much kool-aid. Give us all a break... Go to the clue store and buy one.
      Read the constitution. The house republicans have every right to pick and chose what they do and do not fund... (for any reason). You might Google James Madison (Father of the Constitution) but I realize like most progressives you probably don’t believe in the Constitution, but Madison states:
      "The House of Representatives can not only refuse, but they alone can propose the supplies requisite for the support of Government. They, in a word, hold the purse; that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the People gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the Government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon, with which any Constitution can arm the immediate Representatives of the People, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." -- James Madison, Federalist Papers #58 (1788)
      Keywords: redress, overgrown prerogatives of the other branches.
      Republicans were completely shut out of the process in the creation of this cluster called affordable health care so no wonder why they don't feel like funding it? Probably because they think its a bad law, bundled together and written by a bunch of lobbyists, voted on by a majority consisting of one party who never read it, and when Ted Kennedy died, they had to resort to procedural shenanigans in order to pass it

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      • The President is correct.... We need to improve our education system - too many ignorant Americans. Yeah, you guessed it.... the republicans voted against that too.

        Like I said, extreme right wing fanatics talk a lot about The Constitution, but very few of them HAVE ACTAULLY READ THE CONSTITUTION:

        United States federal budgetFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        "The Budget of the United States Government often begins as the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress which recommends funding levels for the next fiscal year, beginning October 1. However, Congress is the body required by law to pass a budget annually and to submit the budget passed by both houses to the President for signature. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. Budget committees set spending limits for the House and Senate committees and for Appropriations subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs.

        If Congress fails to pass an annual budget, a series of Appropriations bills must be passed as "stop gap" measures. After Congress approves an appropriations bill, it is sent to the President, who may sign it into law, or may veto it (as he would a budget when passed by the Congress). A vetoed bill is sent back to Congress, which can pass it into law with a two-thirds majority in each chamber. Congress may also combine all or some appropriations bills into an omnibus reconciliation bill. In addition, the president may request and the Congress may pass supplemental appropriations bills or emergency supplemental appropriations bills."

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        Insane right wing extremist OBSTRUCTIONISM - Just like what Abraham Lincoln faced in Congress!! That's why we are all on the EDGE OF THE CLIFF AGAIN.

        Got that now?

        GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR EDUCATION ON OUR DEMOCRACY, ROOKIE

        Good luck to all good people.

      • The short answer: You are COMPLETELY WRONG - and the whole Nation knows it.

        The long answer: Right wing idiots talk a lot about the Constitution, but most HAVE NEVER READ IT.

        If they had read it, they would know that:

        1) The Congress (not the President) is responsible for debating and forming a budget.

        2) That budget is debated in the Senate and the House of Representatives.

        3) A COMPROMISE of that budget is AGREED TO IN THOSE HOUSES OF CONGRESS.

        4) Then that budget is sent to the desk of the President to sign or veto.

        Obviously, you don't know what you are talking about. That's why you badmouth FACTS that I posted and vomit up some right wing drivel about Federalist Papers, NOT THE CONSTITUTION.

        THE CONSTITUTION!!

        Now, the extreme right wing terrorists currently posing as the republican party HAVE REFUSED TO DO THEIR JOB (point #1 above) because they want to destroy CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH LEGISLATION that PASSED IN CONGRESS (that is TREASON) because they DON'T BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY UNLESS THEY CAN WIN.

        The Senate did its job.... they sent a budget to the HOUSE and the extreme right wing terrorists in the HOUSE have REFUSED TO BRING THAT TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE because they know they will lose. They are trying to fool the American people into believing the BS you just ranted.

        THE PRESIDENT IS NOT IN CONGRESS

        THE CONGRESS HAS FAILED TO PUT A BUDGET ON THE PRESIDENT'S DESK TO SIGN

        THE REPUBLICAN TALIBAN IS CLEARLY RESPONSIBLE

        I suggest, YOU do some studying, or ask any History/Government professor.... maybe you will discover WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS and then you will know what country you live in - tell your extreme right wing terrorists pals.

        GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR EDUCATION ON OUR DEMOCRACY

        Good luck to all good people.

    • I hope ducati is right, but I wouldn't trust Paul Ryan as far as I could throw him. The man couldn't even tell the truth about his marathon time - BLATANT LIAR.

      Furthermore, Paul Ryan is ONE OF THE IDIOTS WHO MADE THIS EXTREME RIGHT WING MESS - Ask any credible economist.

      NEWS FLASH: Paul Ryan VOTE FOR THE SHUTDOWN and now he's trying to PRETEND HE DIDN'T.

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      LIARS AND HYPOCRITES:

      These Republicans voted for a shutdown while saying they were against it
      Sep 30, 2013

      Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI):

      "Each of these Republicans clearly understands that shutting down the government to extort concessions on Obamacare is the wrong thing to do, but each of them nonetheless voted in favor of doing exactly that when they supported the House GOP's plan fund government for two months while delaying Obamacare for a year.
      If these guys want to be seen as anything less than complete hypocrites, they need to reverse course and agree to approve a clean funding bill. Charlie Dent, one of the members of Congress listed above, told Greg Sargent that if such a bill came before the House, it would pass, but the fact that it would pass is something that everybody already knows. The question is whether such a vote will come up, and the guys who are speaking out against a shutdown while voting for it are the people who will ultimately decide whether that happens.

      If it there isn't a vote on a clean funding bill and the government does shut down, these guys will look worse than the tea partiers in Congress, because at least the tea partiers have the decency to admit they are nihilistic political hostage-takers."

      Good luck to all good people.

    • Just one more thing:

      Pray to whatever God you believe in that Boehner puts America FIRST and STOPS THIS HOSTAGE INSANITY BEFORE A DEFAULT.

      If he puts his SPEAKERSHIP first (as he has done so far), we will DEFAULT, RUIN OUR CREDIT, CAUSE A CHAIN REACTION WORLD WIDE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, KILL MILLIONS OF RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS, CRASH THE STOCK MARKET, DESTROY THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY and CAUSE A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE BALANCE OF POWER.

      The last time this happened (without a default), it caused the depression that led to:

      Hitler and Mussolini rising to power = WORLD WAR II

      That is NOT AN EXAGGERATION!!

      If the right wing idiots cause a DEFAULT - I'm OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET and I suggest you get out too.

      CRASH

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      The right wing is hoping YOU WON'T REMEMBER THIS IN THE 2014 ELECTIONS - That's our chance to RID CONGRESS OF MORONS.

      DON'T FORGET - Veterans, Women's Rights, Voting Rights, Gay Rights and the Middle Class.

      THE 2014 ELECTIONS - The Founding Fathers (Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc.) are COUNTING ON YOU TO SAVE DEMOCRACY. You don't have to charge machine guns - JUST VOTE.

      Good luck to all good people.

    • Now you've proven yourself to be a complete idiot as if you hadn't already done so before. American Taliban? You are joke. Obamascam is just another tax pushed forth by our Socialist president that the working people of America are going to have to fund.

    • That's ABSOLUTELY hilarious:

      The republican leadership really thinks you are stupid.

      The republicans SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT, then they WHINE about no Veterans benefits, no National Parks, no cancer research, and say Park Rangers should be ashamed of themselves.

      Did they forget already or do these SCOUNDRELS HOPE YOU FORGOT who just SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT:

      THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERSHIP LIARS AND HYPOCRITES!!!

      Same republican scoundrels that VOTED AGAINST THE STIMULUS THAT CREATED 6 MILLION JOBS, then showed up at stimulus ribbon cutting ceremonies TO CLAIM CREDIT FOR THE STIMULUS SUCCESSES that they VOTED AGAINST.

      VOTE THESE EXTREME RIGHT WING SCOUNDRELS OUT OF CONGRESS IN 2014

      Good luck to all good people.

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      • The Republicans did not and cannot shut down the federal government; that falls to the President who happens to be Obama. As it turns out 83% of federal government is functioning; the remaining 17% is shut down to some degree. The shut downs are selective, small-minded, vindictive and designed to cause as much pain as possible to private citizens. Interestingly whereas the mall in Wash D. C. was closed to U. S. citizens generally, it was opened selectively for a rally for illegal immigrants, a Democrat interest group.

        While the National Parks may be closed, veteran's benefits are not impaired and cancer research goes on unimpeded.

        BTW the stimulus never created 6 million jobs. Try and document this. For the most part the stimulus was a giant boondoggle and waste of money

        President Obama has been demagoguing this issue and pac257 has fallen for it. He has been reading the NYT too much as well as watching MSNBC, CNN and ABC. pac257, grow up and join the adult community.

 
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