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  • CRAZY_SAILORMAN CRAZY_SAILORMAN Nov 3, 2005 10:58 AM Flag

    PENSION CALC & other goodies

    I SCREWED UP THE CALCULATOR. I used my own longevity figure of 264 months and should have used 240 months which is the value from 12 X 20 years.

    As far as total dollars lost. I'm sure there are many more factors that play a role in the calculating of the multiplier, but this is all not relevant.

    The BOTTOM LINE is that both managers and non bargainers are going to lose a hell of a lot of retirement.

    Those that can participate in the BARGAINING UNIT have the oportunity to change this.

    Sorry management you'll have to figure out your own way to keep yours. Anyone here badmouthing my calculations is obviously from management. Just wait and see when you retire with a frozen pension and those special saving payment what your monthly retirement check will be. My calculation are probably a little off, who cares they at least tell the story. Management will lose theirs and we will keeps ours. Thats life! The BU will get a signed contract. There are ways to force the issue if needed. Cedar Rapids and Coralville are with us on this 100%. If they need us in the future, we will be there to help them as well.

    CEDAR RAPIDS & CORALVILLE BARGAINING UNITS will never give up their pension.

    I want to keep my pension growing until I retire.

    Do you idiots care about your pension?

    It appears that some of you don't. You must have other money available to you. Maybe your MOMMY and DADDY will care for you when you retire.

    How about your new raises going to the Health Ins Company, isn't that wonderfull. Cedar Rapids and CORALVILLE don't have this problem YOU do.

    If you had joined the IBEW 30 years ago look where you'd be today. NOW THATS A STATEMENT!

    What did you startout at $2.00 an hour. I'll bet that Cedar Rapids was a lot higher than that.

    DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THIS?

    Do you think you can without a UNION?

    If you do then you've got a very long wait, I'll guess at 2000000 years or so.


    WHAT ABOUT A VOICE IN THE WORKPLACE?

    Is management going to change all of a sudden and invite you to their meetings for planning. NO they are not. Here agian Cedar and Coralville get to attend and their managers work with them to get the job done. Here in Melbourne it's like a dictatorship.

    Is the cost of living affecting you? It sure is me. DO YOU GET A COST OF LIVING RAISE. Sorry, it's a known fact that management has stated in meetings that they will NEVER give you a COLA ever. BURN BABY BURN.

    With a strong BU, we can get these things fixed once and for all.

    So, what are you all going to do about it?

    Are you willing to stand up and fight for whats right? OR DO YOU WANT A FREE RIDE on this train. It's a right to work state and you can have your free ride and we who give a shit will do all the work for YOU and get you the benefits you don't care to fight for. Isn't it wonderful. WE CARE YOU DON'T. You should be alittle em barr ass ed. But I doubt that anything embarases yu.

    The FREIGHT TRAIN is finally moving and it's getting more momentum everyday.

    The RAISES will the same as last years. How about the IPP and how its divided. NOW YOUR MANAGER is in charge of what you get and you can bet if they don't like your split personality ,then your IPP will be SHIT this year and those kiss ass brown nosers will get a hell of a lot more than you. THE BU PUTS A STOP TO THIS and everybody gets a fair share.

    Their's only a few really hard workers who care and I am one of them and I have put my heart into this company by helping out as much as I can for over five years now. AND I STILL GET SHIT ON BY CERTAIN SUPERVISORS... HOPE YOU PEOPLE ENJOY EATING YOUR CAKES AND COOKIES IN YOUR WORK AREA. Hipposcrits

    DO YOU CARE?


    The Captain

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    • I thought I was once, but yes, I was wrong.

    • >> If you read this board as much as I do, you tend to recognize the writers. <<

      And sometimes, you're dead wrong. Right?

    • I haven't forgotten to correct, I only did that to make a point. I'm certainly no english major. But thanks for noticing.
      I have heard of the 'station'. Its not really a trap as much as a natural human condition.
      Even the neanderthal did it. 'It'll be better when I make a bigger spearpoint', It'll be better with steam, gas, electricity. That is what drives us to better ourselves, sometimes it drives us in the wrong direction, but nothing remains the same, if it did, we would stagnate.
      We still have to try to better ourselves any way we can.

    • Ah Ceres, glad to have you back. In your last couple of postings you forgot to correct grammer - both yours and that of others. You are coming along quite nicely. I am afraid there is not much hope for El Capitan, but you....

      Have you ever heard of "The Station"?
      It is about destinations i.e. when we get "there" everything will be OK. For example "when I get a new job, when I turn 21, when I buy that new car, when the union gets here etc." You get the point - what a despicable trap. Life is what you make of it, either good or bad. If you tie the knot with victims you become one. Is that your mindset? I doubt it. It is time to move on -there will be no union here! As for the Captain and his "vocteam"....they are too stubborn to read the writing on the wall....just a few more weeks, just a few more people to sign up and then everything will get better. Unfortunately when one arrives at the anticipated destination more often than not it is a big disappointment, or anticlimatic. Sigh....well there is always the next station.

    • ***Well I can see nothing has changed since you've been gone either. You are a trip ceres138, first you play nice and then you get down right nasty if someone has a difference of opinion! I now truly understand why you wouldn't want us to know who you are, but can't help to notice by your comment about James that you don't mind calling others out on this board. I really think it's a shame that this is still going on...can't we all just get along, not likely thanks to the Union.
      The Baby ***
      Baby,
      **Maybe ceres is this person called James? Of course, maybe he will next claim that you are the person called James. Who knows who he will claims to be person called James.**

      Boy this copy paste sure can get carried away real quick.
      If you read this board as much as I do, you tend to recognize the writers. James has had many different profiles, but they're always the same. James 241 is nothing but a disrupter. He has no real stake in what goes on at Collins. And I'm tired of him twisting everything that I say. And I thought he should know that.
      I don't call anyone out by name that hasn't stated their name online themselves first. Although I do know who most of you are.

    • ***Well I can see nothing has changed since you've been gone either. You are a trip ceres138, first you play nice and then you get down right nasty if someone has a difference of opinion! I now truly understand why you wouldn't want us to know who you are, but can't help to notice by your comment about James that you don't mind calling others out on this board. I really think it's a shame that this is still going on...can't we all just get along, not likely thanks to the Union.
      The Baby ***

      Baby,
      Maybe ceres is this person called James? Of course, maybe he will next claim that you are the person called James. Who knows who he will claims to be person called James.

    • Union?

      I simply do not feel that the IBEW has made a legitimate argument to show cause. Just because "the captain" continues to spout over and over again that the union will bring us all $5/hr, a cost of living increase yearly and an absurdly low family insurance rates and promise that we'll keep our retirement benefits, does NOT make it SO. :-)

      He's the one and only "douche bag" on this board. Give me an effing break.

      If you want a good "lessons learned" when this is all over with and you've lost?.....know that it was mostly because you had an idiot leading your cause.

      And, please, before you attack me, for attacking him?.....go back and read any one of his stupid posts. It's been a ludicrous attack. I don't know why they haven't canned his ass yet. But I do feel, his day will come.

    • Look, Sgt. Friday, you're mistaken. I'm not "James." I've never been "James."

      Dish your blather somewhere else.

    • >>LOL. That's funny, coming from the little fella who identified himself as "James the dildo queen<<

      Once again you misunderstand.
      #1, I'm not a little fella.
      #2, I'm certainly not James, you are. You are too easy to spot because of your brand of 'dishing', I've heard enough of that to know what it is. Your are very good at it, sweetheart, but please, save it for the club. I'm sure they'll appreciate it there.

    • >> you only make yourself look petty and childish. <<

      LOL. That's funny, coming from the little fella who identified himself as "James the dildo queen."

      You're a real piece of work, Sunshine. Maybe you should do yourself -- and us COL stockholders -- a simple favor, and go find yourself a job you can enjoy. You mentioned something about Walmart. Maybe you ought to start there.

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