insight, in my humble opinion you could be a little more careful what you accept as a fact.
In my still-humble opinion aug13 is not here to 'get' any 'point' at all. I'm not just talking shit here. aug13 is a slimeball.
Try asking aug13 where he got those "bowflex sales" numbers that he can't quite remember and didn't quite look up. They aren't corporate sales, though he compares them to the upcoming estimate as if they were.