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  • chickenhatsdotcom chickenhatsdotcom Jul 3, 2011 10:06 AM Flag

    If and when the acquisition is announced .....

    and it's truly non-dilutive like they hint, it will soak in that not only will EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA. Personally, I think the acquisition is complete and will be announced next week when everyone's back from the July 4th holiday. Also, I'll bet you don't know this ..... LPH will soon be hosting an analyst event at their three facilities. Also can't help but like the fact that Rodman & Renshaw just recently paid LPH a visit in China and now gave them a $6.00 target, but only based on the numbers "without" the 3rd facility acquisition, leaving lots of room for an upgrade in not only their target price of $6.00, but their fiscal 2012 EPS (year-ending Jun. 30, 2012) number of .75 which includes "only" organic growth. Yeah I know that R&R is a worthless outfit for the most part, but with them backing off the space lately in fear of a further, tarnished reputation, they obviously see something in LPH that gives them hope. I own a light position now, as one has to be cautious until terms of the acquisition are announced along with the acquisition itself, but I promise you I'll be buying a heavy position when and if we get the details we hope to receive. I use the word "hope" right now, as it would be ignorant to use any other expression until confirmation knocks on the door.

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    • ChickenHats: "When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA." QED.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • As an experienced investor said, "If and when the acquisition is announced and it's truly non-dilutive like they hint, it will soak in that not only will EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA."

      I like the part about EPS almost doubling from 0.67 to 1.17. Forward P/E < 1 at that point, lowest in the oil industry.

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      • A wise investor recently said, "If and when the acquisition is announced and it's truly non-dilutive like they hint, it will soak in that not only will EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? A $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ... that will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA."

        EPS will ALMOST DOUBLE from 0.67 to 1.17, which makes Forward P/E < 1, lowest in the oil industry.

    • Quotes from an experienced investor in LPH:

      "If and when the acquisition is announced and it's truly non-dilutive like they hint, it will soak in that not only will EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA."

      "The dividend will come next year after this 3rd facility stacks cash feet high in the company's coffers."

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      • Quotes from an experienced investor in LPH:

        "If and when the acquisition is announced and it's truly non-dilutive like they hint, it will soak in that not only will EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA."

        "The dividend will come next year after this 3rd facility stacks cash feet high in the company's coffers."

    • JoeNatural quote: "EPS almost double from .62 to $1.17, but the credibility achieved will do more for the stock price than the acquisition itself. Why ? When's the last time you saw a Chinese company (reverse merger) do a $106 million accretive acquisition without reaching into the pockets of shareholders ? $106 million isn't chump change and that fact alone will yell "legitimacy" from China to the USA."

    • Blah, Blah , Blah, blah - just waiting for the announcement. Paver, your argument is just one big blob of chaotic whatever. Maybe you can play haiku with OZ for fun tonight.

    • "...Any objective person would dismiss you outright as nothing more than a conspiracy theorist, likely with a strong FUD agenda..."

      That's what the ignore button is for. Nobody is forced to read my posts against their will. Some people want to hear all sides of an argument, some don't.


      "...If you want credibility, take a position in LPH, contribute balanced arguments..."

      WTF? What do I care about credibility on a Yahoo message board? I'm studying these scams for my own benefit, not for your misplaced idea of 'credibility'. And what makes you think YOUR opinion of LPH (from which you stand to gain financially) is so chock full of 'facts'? If I regurgitate PR nonsense at a 10:1 ratio with negative posibilities, will my opinion be balanced then? 20:1? What's your magic number?

      I would have nothing to say if there was already a range of opinion and recognition of risks here. There isn't, so I interject with my opinion. That's what a Yahoo message board is for. It's not a satelite RedChip Lite site exclusively for soft pumping - although you have every right to do that here till the cows come home if you want.


      "...You are angry, you are cynical, and you are a coward who hides behind a computer screen and throws rocks at everyone..."

      Gee.... if all the world were more like North Korea, you would never have to hear those pesky dissenting opinions that interfere with your stock promotion. Why not write to Yahoo and suggest that they moderate these boards to eliminate people like me? Wouldn't it be great if there were nothing but starrey-eyed longs gushing about Longwei in every post? Ahhh.... bliss. Plus, you could probably dump some of those dang warrants once and for all.


      "...and act like a reasonable poster, instead of a petulant child..."

      How dare someone disagree with you! You're trying to make a buck here and I'm not helping you one bit, am I? Are you really that insecure about your position in Longwei, or do you just really need the money?

    • "I'm asking the same questions *any* reasonable investor should if they were trying to do some minimal DD."

      Nonsense. Read your own posting history morefud. Any objective person would dismiss you outright as nothing more than a conspiracy theorist, likely with a strong FUD agenda. Since you own no shares, and you are unwilling to share with anyone why you bother posting this swill, I'll just have to keep countering it with the obvious factual info that we know. Everyone here knows MY agenda. You on the other hand are simply a fraud.

      Your level of skepticism is neither reasonable, or real. You are angry, you are cynical, and you are a coward who hides behind a computer screen and throws rocks at everyone.

      If you want credibility, take a position in LPH, contribute balanced arguments, and act like a reasonable poster, instead of a petulant child.

    • Morefud, everyone should be skeptical of Chinese reverse mergers, regardless of potential. That said, there will no doubt be several of these reverse mergers that emerge as 10-baggers, no different than what we say beginning in the Spring of 2009. Just gotta see who's got the real goods and who doesn't. As of now, LPH has just as good of an outlook as anyone in this space if not the very best. Gotta love the tiny short-interest, as we know for sure the stock isn't currently a target of short-sellers. That's a fact that no one can ignore.

    • "...Again - this was already dealt with in the last CC satisfactorily..."

      Sure, cb. You point me to the minute and second where Toups gave a clear, unambiguous answer to this specific question. You got quite an imagination there, Skippy!


      "...Any options they ultimately consider will be to enhance shareholder value in the long run, not take away from it..."

      Translation: dilution. Do you feel 'enhanced shareholder value' from the last financing? It was just dripping with it, wasn't it? Guano tanks bursting at the seams? Hey - what's a few warrants to secret insider accredited investor pals (that are currently hammering your share price)? Looks like they're the only ones that got any enhancement. Please tell the audience why you think something is going to be different this time? Or were you one of those early accredited investors that got sub-$1 shares?


      "...Morefud, you clearly want everyone to "think" there is some sort of well orchestrated rip off in the works. You are crazier than even I thought possible..."

      No, that's the suggestion YOU keep making to explain my reasonable amount of skepticism given the circumstances. I'm asking the same questions *any* reasonable investor should if they were trying to do some minimal DD. You, on the other hand, dismiss *ANY* non-RedChip approved happy-newz as an evil short plot or fud or whatever nutter conspiracy you see on some other board.

      I'll be here long after you've dumped and bailed, cb. You're not the first Pied-piper to show up on a message board, and you won't be the last. You certainly won't be around after someone has lost all their kid's college money on another one of these scams. Won't be your fault, right? They should have known better.

    • "Whoa there, Hono... Remember the 100Mt of fuel they have to buy, PLUS all the additional or new 'advances' it's going to take to run their supply chain just like their existing model? You're talking way over $50M or $60NM just to get to that point *after* they pay for the new facility."

      -Again - this was already dealt with in the last CC satisfactorily. No use guessing here when they have already answered this one.

      "And you're also assuming prematurely they won't use some kind of convertible debt or do some kind of rip-off financing through the existing warrant holders."

      -They have been straight forward about this also. Any options they ultimately consider will be to enhance shareholder value in the long run, not take away from it. Morefud, you clearly want everyone to "think" there is some sort of well orchestrated rip off in the works. You are crazier than even I thought possible.

      "Cai and Toups have repeatedly claimed no dilution ONLY for acquiring the new facility, not for filling the tanks or making tens of millions in required advances. We'll see how this all plays out if the deal goes through *and* they have the tanks full and their suppliers pockets sufficiently lined. I'm not wrong about what Toups *does* yet - I admit that I'm not clear exactly *how* he's going to do it or when, but I know what the guy does."

      -Better start passing out the tin foil hats at this point.

      Move along people. This guy owns no shares, yet has all these certifiable ideas he constantly spews on how LPH is going to take us all down. What does that tell you?? How do you think these funds keep accumulating large quantities of cheap shares without anyone noticing?? Paid Basher, plain and simple!

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