Thanks for the info. What does CEF stand for? Im willing to learn. I reviewed your last post and feel like I just came out of the darkness. Looks like 8% ylds are plentiful with spread risk. Am I missing something. Also why the discounts of 14% on some of these funds? I thank you in advance. I was a TCR holder before it went public and did very well up until about a year or two ago. Drip plan and all I over tripled my original investment. Thanks!