Yes, they do own a boatload. My experience is that they do not suffer fools easily. by now they know that Rooney promises things and then doesn't deliver. How long do you think they will be patient. They've just had a big drop in their investment in ERII and in a few months will have to consider tax loss selling. How long will it take them to get out of this position. If there was any good news to report at the company do you really think a guy like Rooney would not put our a press release?