"Ranking Washington over Lincoln implies a hostility to blacks which you manifested with your racist remarks. I don't like white people. I hate rednecks. You're a redneck."
Ranking Washington over Lincoln implies a hostility to blacks? You're delusional pal! I said NO RACIST remarks! I was CLEARLY talking about THUGS and there are plenty of them in the ghetto, that is a fact! Just as there are WHITE thugs there too, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and many others. You go hang out in the ghetto if you are so comfortable.
I am not a redneck!
What a joke Nixon should be close to the top of the list if not for him opening things with China we may not be trading XIN today and he won reelection by a landslide I take it some Dem came up with this list wile Obama is at #7 with the debt he created should be close to bottom and where is Reagan he should be in the top 5 after cleaning up the Carter mess.
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Washington # 3? I know the history profs rankings put him high up, and I read your comments on the other thread about how he could've defined the position as a king, and I've heard that before, but is it really true?
We'd just fought a pretty long war to get rid of a King. We had no intention of reforming a Kingdom. Remember, the Constitution was our 2nd try at national governance. Our first were the Articles of Confederation, which turned out to so weaken the national government that it basically couldn't exist over time -- the very antithesis of a King and Kingdom.
While the Constitution moved slightly closer to a strong national government, the national government back then had only a tiny fraction of the powers that we today take for granted.
Could Washington really have said "I've been elected President, but I hereby pronounce myself King. I'm tearing up your Constitution, outlawing your Congress and from now on I plan to rule by royal decree" without the Patrick Henry's and Sam Adams's of the colonies going completely nuts and taking to the hills again?
Why did Buchanon suck? There were a lot of 19th century Presidents I didn't know much about and he was one of them. Was he part of that do-nothing bunch preceding the Civil War?
Even if you're not ready to forgive Nixon for Watergate, don't his Cold War accomplishments have to serve to offset Watergate enough to get him out of the bottom 3?
"Lincoln ended slavery. Can you see why he would be a hero to black folks??"
Ummm, yes its obvious to me however I have never heard a black person say it, ever. Not one time. That's why I asked "who".
Secondly, to avoid war Liberals back then wanted to keep slavery to avoid war. Nothing has changed has it?
You just make stuff up. Watch Ken Burns' documentary on the Civil war. The left was FOR the Civil war as the way to end slavery. You know one black person so it makes sense that you don't know what black folks think. Look up Cornell West or Toni Morrison.