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Xinyuan Real Estate Co., Ltd. Message Board

  • victorcreo victorcreo Jun 7, 2013 11:38 AM Flag

    Really confused...why isn't this at $40?

    Alright. I've been looking at the fundamentals, did some research, bought about 1000 shares, and I really like the stock, but it's been hovering for quite a while and i dont know why. Based on valuations, earning, this should be at around $40, just from P/E. It's got a good divi, very low Price to book, and the P/E is 2..., completely undervalued, but why aren't people buying? I mean, I think it's a steal, I'm just confused.

    Also, if you're a moronic basher/pumper, who's going to come in and tell me i'm either an idiot for buying it, or saying it will go up 20 bucks tomorrow, plz dont. Just going to ignore/ report/ flag you. Seriously, what do you guys think? and Why?

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    • The entire Chinese small cap market is grossly undervalued. Because some Chinese stocks turned out to be frauds the entire market has been marked down tremendously. I maintain a core position which I trade around adding and subtracting based on when the stock goes down or up. I buy on weakness and sell the rallies.

    • you can ask that question about many Chinese stocks, and the reason is mainly the same, trust and scams

      The only reason this stock isn't .40 cents now is becasue they are issuing a dividend. As long s the divi stays or rises so will the stock. If they were to ever cancel the dividend this will collapse. It will take time to build trust.

    • The company is a mainland Chinese non-SOE. Most listing in this category are significantly discounted. The discounting has nothing to do with the company. Mainland Chinese listing are regulated by a Chinese government that is clueless on financial systems. This regulatory vacuum has been exploited by corrupt Chinese stealing investor's money. The other factor is it is unlikely a shareholder actually owns anything when buying an ADR or share in a mainland Chinese issue. Buying an ADR is ownership in Cayman Island company. The Cayman Island company does not have any assets of consequence. This company has agreements with the Chinese company that does own assets. The company, based on some sketchy logic, asserts the agreements gives the Cayman Island company control of all of the operation and asset of the company. This is called a VIE structure, a legacy lawyerly golem perfected by Enron, This idea alwaysbeen defeated when tested in Chinese courts. Chinese's law is foreigners can not own Chinese assets that includes XIN. We only receive dividends through the kindness of the CEO and his wife. If either of them decide to revoke their generosity, including by divorce - a very popular Chinese activity, we shareholders will have absolutely nothing and there will be no ramification for the CEO or his wife.

      It is shameful the SEC allows this to still occur and is evidence of the agency's ability to perform its principle

      With that said, XIN is a great company. Impressively guided by a wise and intelligent CEO. It is unfortunate it is in a fascist state that views foreigners as sub-human cattle and has never demonstrated a willingness to work beyond its borders.

    • tdcburns Jun 7, 2013 2:27 PM Flag

      Yes, XIN is way undervalued along with many other memaining legit US listed chinese stocks. Unfortunately the SEC has said stay away and nobody seems to care.

      XIN seems to be forming a very nice cup and handle on the daily and the weekly chart.

      Maybe one day some of the way undervalued legit chinese stocks will get the respect they deserve.

      Same thing with my favorite, LIWA.

    • yeah right

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