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  • gothotstocks gothotstocks Jul 14, 2008 9:21 PM Flag

    Dishonesty

    How would one go about reporting a supervisor/manager over dishonesty without it coming back to haunt them? There is a supervisor that specifically told a driver to inflate their daily pick-up schedule by taking credit for packages that the tractor trailer driver took. If anyone else did this they would be fired since it is stealing time fromt he company. BUT, it seems to be ok when the supervisors are trying to make their numbers look good I assume.

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    • The first thing you should do is advise the driver who is signing for the extra packages to not do that, even if a sup tells him to. By signing for those packages he is taking responsability for them as if they were on his truck. Any damages, loss etc can be assigned back to him in the future. We all know UPS has a report for EVERYTHING and he could end up on some excessive damage/loss list that could come back to haunt him long after the supervisor who told him to sign for them is long gone. Also he is in effect falsifying records which could get him fired as well.

    • >>How would one go about reporting a supervisor/manager over dishonesty without it coming back to haunt them? There is a supervisor that specifically told a driver to inflate their daily pick-up schedule by taking credit for packages that the tractor trailer driver took. If anyone else did this they would be fired since it is stealing time fromt he company. BUT, it seems to be ok when the supervisors are trying to make their numbers look good I assume.<<'

      There are no guarantees that the vindictive bastards won't try to hurt you for reporting them.

      You need to do whatever is right. Two possible outcomes that would fix your situation might be:

      1. Upper management decides that the petty dishonesty is not acceptable and gets rid of the offenders who then are not in a position to haunt you.

      2. Upper management decides that the perpetrators are indeed creative liars and promotes them to franchisee relations, again removing them from your proximity.

      Good luck!

    • Hey, thats how some of the current district mgrs. Made it to the top. That and hiding thousands of missed pcs. In trailers.

    • contact your loss prevention hot line you should have a number posted in your ctr you do not give your name or phone number its confidential

    • You don't have to prove anything. Way back when we had house mail we just droppped a little note in the house mail. "It looks like someone on a certain day and time instructed a driver to alter his or her time card". They'll come in and look at them all. You don't have to name names or prove anything. If after about a week the guy who did it dosen't seem uncomfortable. Send it further up the chain. Just be pure in your motives. Don't do it just to be mean.

    • I don't have a clue as to who the I.E. manager is let alone the division manager. I am getting close to 30 years and I get more disgusted as the years go by.
      I highly doubt anyone knows about it since it is not a regular thing, at least that I see. Perhaps other drivers see phoney numbers also when they take a day off or go on vacation and the swing drivers take over as per "instructed" by management. I am pretty observant as to what goes on in regards to my route and area. I can smell when there is something rotten going on.

    • If you have proof bring it to the District I.E. Manager, bypass the sups and section leaders. Your second choice would be the Accounting/Controller they are responsible for acuracy of data that's used for payroll. I had two Managers in my career that we "asked to leave" based on falsifying either time cards or production (local sort, preload ). I've been out for a few years but I can't imaingne life would change. Good luck, you cannot let it sit if you have proof.
      Onetime

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      • What about corporate? Are they any good in this issue?
        I highly doubt they have a clue as to what's really going on around here with the screwed up time allowances. This is what happens when things get way out of line with the phoney allowances. People are told to inflate numbers to make it 'look good' on paper for their year end bonus I guess.
        This individual has a history of doing this though so I guess it's the norm for him.

      • Proof you say?

        How about the darn pick-up log that shows the number of pieces for that day!!!!
        Even the exact stop that shows the highly inflated number!!!!

        They were called into the office and everything was brushed under the carpet as usual. They know this is wrong since other drivers have been fired in the past for doing this. However we still have some crooked liars in the building that need to go sad to say. They are habitual liars.

 
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