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United Parcel Service, Inc. Message Board

  • drmagoo54 drmagoo54 May 13, 2014 1:41 PM Flag


    this company continues to miss quarter after quarter, year after year, lowers their guidance regularly and still misses and the stock defies gravity and goes way can they make $5.15 for this calendar year which is another huge lowered guidance and again the stock defies gravity......who in their right mind would buy at this price....fdx gets downgraded twice in a week and its up like 6 bucks.....not my daddys stock market.....luck

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    • edwinthorp May 14, 2014 2:52 PM Flag

      what company are we talking about fdx or ups

    • Well good Doctor there is an alternative way to look at things. If one reverts back to the tried and true method of analyzing the Price/Earnings ratio, the price is very reasonable. Keep in mind that for years and years the price was stagnant. We're still in the catch up mode. In recent years, a P/E of around 20 is the sweet spot and well earned. Presently we're at 22.7. If we meet the earnings expectation for next year of $5.90, which is very achievable particularly with the FDX dimension shipping charge impact, the P/E at $102.50 is 17.37. So, we could easily have a target of 20 X $5.90 or $118. BTW, I'm not sure why you think they can't make $5.15. That is just above the lowest of the revised range. I'd like to think that with the facility improvements and the attention to an improved peak for this year, things will be smooth this year. It would be hard to envision weather anywhere close to the 2013/early 2014 anamolies. Of course, time will tell. Now if you want an example of laughable, look at the FY ending May, 2015 EPS projections for our good friends FDX.

      • 2 Replies to dudesbag
      • Hopefully no dim weight for UPS , FDX will suffer loss of ground volume not making the contract drivers very happy with the company , adding fuel to the fire to seek union representation

      • i believe both stocks are overpriced considering the consistency in which they continue to miss estimates quarter after quarter.....with .98 cents in the first quarter and $1.23 estimate this next quarter...that is $2.21 for 1st half of the year ...i just can't see $2.93 for the 2nd half of year to get to $5.15....last year 2nd half of year was $2.41......jmo...btw.....nothing against UPS...i retired from there and my son is a driver there.......luck

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