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Augme Technologies, Inc. Message Board

  • sirius_yomama_2 sirius_yomama_2 Dec 13, 2012 7:11 AM Flag

    AOL, P and now Yahoo

    From prior case discovery with yahoo, they know that many of the definitions of the IP currently in dispute is going to hold up in the through the Patent review. With I also know, given P' recent Marksman and AOL's so far, that at least half or better of terms in question will go Augme's way with yahoo on their marksman. With the new CAFC ruling the playing field has changed dramatically in favor of Augme. IMO, they continued to discuss the case post SMJ and Yahoo needed additional pressure to get to the settlement table. As such, and this ONLY an opinion of mine based on the rulings that we have been getting on the marksman of P and AOL along with Velti and MM which I believe will be similar to P's, we are going to see a settlement in 2013. With broad acceptance of definition on these marksman that Augme can use between judges there will a assumption that our IPs in question have strong case for enforcement given the new CAFC ruling specially.

    But I continue to buy based solely on core fundamentals! When this IP thing happens it will be an icing on the cake.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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    • I don't think so. I would suggest posters and readers to study the CAFC process. The likely Yahoo situation is 8 - 14 months at the CAFC. If a positive outcome is reached it will be remanded back to district court to continue the trial, which could be another 12-18 months. There is no pressure on Yahoo to settle.

      P is a different story and it will be interesting how VELT and MM play out. I don't expect anything to develop in the near term but who knows. IP monetization is filled with surprises. I don't get my hopes up though.

      Deliver a good quarter and some guidance for CY'13 and we are cooking.

      • 1 Reply to flyersdh
      • I don't put any hopes on Yahoo near term. Who knows at this point??? That and AOL are big 800 gorillas that have the resource to drag it. But P, Velti, and MM are my interest point as far direct competitors go. Given the very favorable result on P's marksman I highly anticipate that both Velti and MM will turn out the same or better. For those I would bet that next 18 months will be a nice time frame to expect a settlement if not a court date and a win. And if one of those goes the other two will definitely follow suit having no real IP to protect their core business.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • I think Augme was waiting for this yahoo appeal to be filed before releasing the preliminary numbers. It might be tomorrow.

    • We are in a great position here. The crazy thing is that if the "IP thing happens" it will be the core business that is the icing on the cake! Paul Arena and other investors apparently let all that IP light blind them a bit, it looks as if the company has gotten its ducks in a row now. Glad to see good news on the IP front, we just need those Q3 numbers now and this stock will be back in play. I am curious to see how the stock reacts to the news today. It is very unfortunate that the share price has suffered as it has, but the good thing about how this has all played out is that if we have any legal victory there will be no higher court where Yahoo could go to appeal.

      Sentiment: Buy

      • 1 Reply to thedudeabides742
      • dude...."when" the IP thing happens the Core business will flourish for Augme even more as the cost foundation of the direct competitors will change dramatically. IMO, upon a settlement, one of these characters will go for a buy on Augme. They have to....but the price then will be several times more expensive. They had the business savoy to see the light after these marksmen verdicts they would buy Augme before a settlement and rule the future outcome of the other cases.

        Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • "With the new CAFC ruling the playing field has changed dramatically in favor of Augme." There is no CAFC ruling! The appeal isn't even docketed by the clerk!.

      For all intents and purposes, this is the end of the line. Once the CAFC rules, the district lap-courts will follow the line. Of course, if it wasn't for this court, AUGT's "foundational" patents would be DOA.

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