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  • raybans2 raybans2 Jan 12, 2013 5:34 PM Flag

    Don't waste your time if you want to buy a hand gun

    I don't ever plan to carry a concealed weapon. When I go to the firing range I leave my bullets at home and buy the reloads that they sell at the range and the unloaded gun is in the storage box in which it came in when I purchased it. I do this for practical reasons since if I get pulled over and they find a registered gun in the car, they can only make an issue of it if bullets can be quickly put into it. If there are no bullets and thus it cannot be used as a weapon then there is no possible way one can be charged with a crime even if the police officer is not rational. This may be over kill because I have not been stopped by a police officer in over 30 years as I don't break traffic laws but you can never be too careful. I'm the guy that everyone gets #$%$ off at because I drive too conservatively.

    However I keep my guns loaded at home and concealed in a drawer next to the bed. My wife has a different gun next to her side in case she awakes and I don't.

    I have been robbed at gun point twice, once when I was in a friends apartment and two guys came in with guns in hand and we were caught off guard. About a year latter a different set of guys came to the same apartment but this time he had a 44 magnum and one of the two ended up going to jail but the other one got away. When he saw the diameter of the bore of the 44 magnum they took off running, both in different directions. So it was not possible to catch them both. I came out when I heard him yelling frantically to stop one of the guys who ran into the court yard where a lot of apartment doors had access but I was on the second floor. About 5 other people who were on the first floor came out of their apartments and tackled him and they held him until the police came. Two of them were OSU football players who happened to live in our apartment complex so they were well suited for the task.

    Now I no longer assume that when someone knocks on the door that the person on the other side is friendly. My guns are for home defense only and target practice. I have no need for a concealed weapon as I have never encountered a situation when someone has tried to rob me when I am in public. They seem to prefer to come to your home and do it there in private behind closed doors. At least that is what has happened to me. For those who want to remain unarmed. Good luck with that. All I can say was that the in the first robbery when they told us all to get in the bath room I can remember as they led us back there that all of us were looking at each other with that knowing look that we all understood that we were thinking that this was it, that they were going to kill us. We were horrified for a moment until they closed the door and ran off.

    I will never allow myself to be in that situation again as the stories I have heard of others since then is that they did try to kill them so there would be no witnesses. They even openly talked about disposing the witnesses in front of them which was what got them to stop being passive and create a situation which caused the robbers to run off before they had a chance to killed them and they ended up with nonlethal wounds but are still alive, obviously, or how else would they tell their story. All these people how have home defense weapons. I don't know of very many people who have actually been robbed at gun point in their homes who don't. It's a wakeup call that most don't ignore. Reality sucks. But it is what it is. Ignore it at your own risk.

    My wife once had someone try to break in who apparently wanted to rape her. After that she bought a 12 gage shot gun that almost knocks her over when she shoots it. I convinced her that a shot gun was a little extreme and that a hand gun would be adequate. We got rid of the shot gun. At least if you have to shoot someone with a hand gun there is a good chance they will live. Also you don't use up your bullets so fast.

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    • While interesting, your story RayB is inconsistent on so many levels, it borders on the ludicrous. To list just the glaring inconsistencies:

      1) " I don't ever plan to carry a concealed weapon. When I go to the firing range I leave my bullets at home.....I do this for practical reasons since if I get pulled over and they find a registered gun in the car..If there are no bullets... then there is no possible way one can be charged with a crime"

      Wow, get a concealed weapon permit, carry on your person in the car, and you avoid the concern. No???

      2) "I have no need for a concealed weapon as I have never encountered a situation when someone has tried to rob me when I am in public. They seem to prefer to come to your home"

      Uh, am I the only one who laughed when I read that?? Do you have some manual which indicates a criminal's preferred method to rob, maim and murder??

      My experience has been just the opposite. I have been threatened verbally with death when stopped(cornered) in my vehicles with the bad guy blocking my escape. His words, "I am going to come over there and drag you out of your car and kill you". Maybe he didn't read RayB's manual for the preferred method of killer's attacks..he should have waited until I got home, parked my car, unlocked my house, unlocked my gun safe, retrieved my ammunition, loaded my gun and then waved my gun in the air, with that large caliber scary barrel, hopefully sending him running....;-)

      "I will never allow myself to be in that situation again as the stories I have heard of others since then is that they did try to kill them" .....Uh, huh!!

      Might want to reconsider that concealed weapon permit!!

      3) How did that gun confrontation play with the robber facing you with his weapon and you having the time to draw your 44 and "scare" him away with that ferocious looking weapon?? Did you wave it a few times in clockwise or counter clockwise fashion? You aren't dead, and damned lucky...Don't own a weapon if you plan on only scaring folks with it....

      The liberals on this thread are correct in that sense. Weapons(concealed carry or home defense) are for one purpose, and it is not to scare....

      Finally, you carelessly recommend home security with loaded weapons without the warning that there is certain ammunition you must use for stopping the invader which will reduce the likelihood of harming those occupants in adjoining rooms, such as children or neighbors. There is ammunition, such as hollow point, low velocity rounds which will fill that requirement. Also gun safety classes should be taken by all family members entrusted with a gun.

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