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No public employee was ever paid 30% to 100% more than their private sector counterparts unless they were a part of a corrupt process to get favors from elected officials who they helped elect by pooling their votes. In my opinion if you were a part of these behind close door deals to enrich one's self at the expense of the public who must pay taxes they cannot afford so you can be wealthier than the people paying those taxes then you deserve to be treated for what you are and flushed. I'm not talking about the people who have not been a part of this process. Not everyone is a part of this but it is pretty epidemic.
It makes no sense when a fireman in your neighborhood is driving every month to the local lake in an expensive RV with a speed boat in tow because he knows he does not have to worry about saving for retirement and being debt free when he retires because his pension at age 55 will pay him 80% to 90% of his salary which he can jack up his last year by working excessive amounts of over time. He also won't have to be on Medicare because his retirement medical benefits are for life. Yet his engineering neighbor with a PHD is saving 30% of everything he makes for retirement and drives a Volkswagen to work, takes a modest vacation every three years, and still can't save enough to have a comparable retirement because he is paying the taxes to support his neighbor's extravagant life style and to pay for all the government consultants who get paid to perform bogus studies that they do in their spare time when they are not loafing yet they rake $200k a year or more simply to reverberate an opinion that the government wants affirmed and whether it is true or not doesn’t matter.
And the only reason a fireman has his job is because a friend of the family made sure the position was not listed until his friend's son's application was ready to be submitted. His engineering neighbor’s son hasn’t a chance to get hired because he didn’t know anyone on the inside. The state of government employment has reached a state of corruption that has never before been seen. My ex wife’s sister is a PHD who is in business for her self doing studies for the California department of education and is quite well off because if it. At the time we were married she offered to do a few studies on the side in my wife’s name so that we could collect the checks. She said it was no big deal that they were easy to do. I was really #$%$ off and told my wife that I didn’t want us to be any part of government corruption. She is still doing this. She is a parasite on society and many of them exist and it is where a lot of the government money goes. Of course these people’s votes are in the bag. Think about it. Have you ever heard of anyone with a biology degree working in private industry? Who pays them?
Some people may think that this is a funny situation but I can tell you that most of us are NOT laughing. Quite the opposite, we are infuriated by it. It has gone too far and it is time to put a stop to it.
I agree with you, RayBan, but I don't think it has much to do with votes. This corruption goes on because life-long bureaucrats cause it to happen, not because a mayor or governor wants to get elected ... for the most part.
Didn't you get the memo? With all the smoke detectors, sprinkler systems, and fire retardant materials, there aren't very many fires any more that don't get put out with a hand held fire extinguisher buy the resident of the building. That is why they have gotten politicians to write laws that fire trucks have to go out on calls even when there is not a fire and why firemen are now becoming paramedics. You could close down most of the fire stations and no one would notice. Technology has its price, so it seems. It has resulted in fewer people being required to do every job. But evidently no one told that to the government as they have done everything possible to make sure that firemen stick around whether as many of them are needed or not.
H&H !!! In Knoxville,Tenn the fire dept is a private entity. You have to join and pay annual premiums which was low from memory. If you did not pay you can sign a contract to pay the actual cost of putting the fire out or they let it burn to the ground. There is no Tennessee state personal income tax and the citizens that dont need fire protection dont pay for it.
Texas has taxes. They tax company revenues at a very low rate rather than taxing profits at a higher rate. It is like having a sales tax but it is collected at the company instead of at the retail store. It is completely non progressive because everyone pays it when they buy the products that the company makes. And for some reason they like this better than taxing profits. Maybe because they consider it a cost of doing business that they simply pass on to the consumer. But because they get so much money this way they don't have to have as many other taxes.