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American Capital Agency Corp. Message Board

  • little2late0 little2late0 Apr 24, 2013 9:00 AM Flag

    They Should Rename This MB

    They should change the name of this board from AGNC message board to the OT message Board. So very little about AGNC, so very much about many other stocks. Even when someone mentions AGNC it's not about buying or selling the stock, not about its earnings, not about AGNC fundamentals or its technicals. It's all about options. If someone comes here to learn something about AGNC, they will be very disappointed.

    L2L

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    • I am giving you a thumbs up because you raise a valid point, albeit in kind of a negative manner.
      We should almost have an FAQ text file for new club members to click on.
      Your post also reminds many of us where we were once upon a time in our neophyte days, and that we must be careful not to alienate new members who will very likely have supportive input in coming years.
      The funniest heading posted by Onion weeks ago was, "OT: AGNC..."

      That said, this is a heck of a classroom that has helped me build my liquid wealth from a pittance up to a paltry pile in about a year. Two years ago I was looking ahead to retirement years thinking, #$%$ am I going to do? my investments will return only a hundred a month and SS will have to cover everything else.
      Now I have the tools to wiggle almost a thousand a month in dividends from that paltry pile, but moreover the confidence to double it every year for the next ten and really do some nice things on this planet.

    • They should change the name of this board from AGNC message board to the OT message Board. So very little about AGNC, so very much about many other stocks. Even when someone mentions AGNC it's not about buying or selling the stock, not about its earnings, not about AGNC fundamentals or its technicals. It's all about options. If someone comes here to learn something about AGNC, they will be very disappointed.

      Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • Done, the name has been changed.

    • little2late0, What do you want to know?
      It helps if you ask a question. : )

      People here are very helpful.
      I think the only case they aren't is if you ask what the ex dividend date is.
      Then you usually get some snarky comments or get told to go check their web site.

    • Wipe the sand out and move on.

    • contact yahoo they have shut message boards down. then after spending days trying to give them some input go to their board and tell the investors that yahoo cares nothing about its customers.

    • lnhirst@sbcglobal.net lnhirst Apr 24, 2013 12:01 PM Flag

      L2L, when an SPO is near completion, if you then buy AGNC, the shares will typically advance substantially for 2 weeks plus thereafter. Some investors will then sell. Other folks will hold the stock longer, watching it advance up to the ex-dividend date and then unloading the shares just before the ex-div date. An alternative is to purchase shares when an SPO is near completion and then hold onto the shares and also collect the dividend. I used to hold and collect the dividends. Now I unload the shares before the ex-dividend date. Although, I would have made substantially more, if I held past the ex-div date this last time around. Note: I've never gone the options route. Old math teachers don't do options.........ha, ha.

      • 1 Reply to lnhirst
      • L2L, when an SPO is near completion, if you then buy AGNC, the shares will typically advance substantially for 2 weeks plus thereafter. Some investors will then sell. Other folks will hold the stock longer, watching it advance up to the ex-dividend date and then unloading the shares just before the ex-div date. An alternative is to purchase shares when an SPO is near completion and then hold onto the shares and also collect the dividend. I used to hold and collect the dividends. Now I unload the shares before the ex-dividend date. Although, I would have made substantially more, if I held past the ex-div date this last time around. Note: I've never gone the options route. Old math teachers don't do options.........ha, ha.

        Sentiment: Strong Sell

    • You should learn about options and join the party.I did last year with a small amount of money and made the mistake of trading in a taxable account.Now I have a good problem where to hide all that $ from the IRS.I maxed out an IRA for my wife and myself with profits from options. I guess I'll have to give exempt gifts to my 3 kids and other charitable organizations.I'm just saying be open minded and you might be surprised at what you can learn here,it's all good.

      Sentiment: Buy

      • 4 Replies to whosejake1
      • Got my morning email from Credit Suisse. Among the stocks covered, it lists AGNC with an Outperform rating and a $34 price target.

        L2L

      • So you had a high options level in the IRAs? I gather that was relatively rare. Congrats on the gains, though.

      • Thanks guys for the informative posts. I find this kind of discussion very useful since I've been out of mREITs and other trusts for quite awhile now. Years ago I held a number of trusts in R/E and energy such as HTS, AGNC, ERF, HTE, PWE and a few others. Now thinking of getting back into the mREITS and currently I'm holding AGNC and MTGE but nowhere near the number of shares I'd like.

        Each time I took early retirement (did it twice), I converted my 401K and 403B into IRAs with Schwab so my ability to play with options is extremely limited. I think I can buy covered calls but that's about it. However, my knowledge of options is even more limited than my ability to invest in them so I just trade certain stocks and ETFs and, occasionally, buy and hold some stocks that look promising over the LT. I'm hoping AGNC and MTGE fall into this latter category.

        Again, thanks for the information you've provided.

        L2L

      • whosejake, you could also take a chance and not report the options gains since option sales are not reported to IRS by brokers. Those folks at IRS will never know.........

    • yourbestfriendintheworld yourbestfriendintheworld Apr 24, 2013 9:48 AM Flag

      AGNC is not a moving target like almost every other company is. It does one thing and it does it well. And the stock moves randomly except for two very well-characterized sources of swing: SPOs and ex-Dividend dates; and two very well-known sources of risk: Fed buying of MBS and Fed control of short-term interest rates. Options get discussed because they're the best way to leverage the swings, and because they're complicated and generate a lot of questions on their own.

      If someone comes here to learn something about AGNC and does not ask a question about AGNC, they will get what they deserve.

    • Thank you for your input. We will miss you. Have you tried using the ignore button, it works very good. Good luck in your future endeavors . Good buy !!

 
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