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American Capital Agency Corp. Message Board

  • thom988 thom988 Jan 8, 2014 7:47 AM Flag

    The cold, hard truth...


    This Board would be the last place in the world, let me re-phrase that....This Board would not even rank as being the last place in the World to seek advice on the optimistic or pessimistic view on any stock. Nobody here is looking out for each other’s interest.

    The majority of this board is a gathering for liars, imposters, thieves and charlatans with agendas. I have watched as individuals spouted outrageous posts intended to deceive and distort.

    This will never change. Remove anonymity and one is immediately one step closer to the truth. Remain anonymous and one is less trustworthy.

    Here is some advice that comes from researchers in marketing, finance and information systems at The University of Texas at Austin and the University of Miami.

    There is real risk in being influenced by the 'noise' and begin to amplify your own investment biases. Individual investors exhibit what is called confirmation bias. Most people on these boards will select and read information that conforms to their own preconceived biases, and as a result they actually become more confident in their opinion and trade more frequently, but with lower overall returns.

    This runs counter to the concept that investors are rational information gatherers. Behavioral finance studies tell us investors are subject to all manner of psychological biases. And message boards contribute to these biases, actually amplifying them, particularly for investors with strongly held opinions. Bears grow more bearish, bulls turn even more bullish, and trading frequency rises, along with greater trading cost.

    The best advice I can give is to just ignore the boards, it's as simple as that.

    Sentiment: Hold

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    • Message Board postings SHOULD NOT be used to figure out whether and when a stock should be bought. It SHOULD be used for getting additional info/something being pointed out that you might have overlooked. Another point of view is always useful - after all NOBODY is super smart. Otherwise - we all would be very rich by now.

    • kidshelleen51 Jan 12, 2014 4:57 PM Flag

      So ... your advice to us is ....don't take any advice from a message board. I got it. Thanks for that advice. Er...wait a minute.

    • You seem like the people in our great urban centers who look the other way or don't want to get involved. I respect those who get involved for one simple fact, Evil will flourish under your scenario.

      "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
      So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again in the scriptures.

      They Get Nothing Good Done
      When good men do nothing, they get nothing good done. To be good, one must do good. The Lord commands his people to do good (Luke 6:35; Eph. 2:10). Christ "gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14).

    • Arguments still have to be evaluated on the basis of whether they are rational. My reason for holding Agnc is that the dividend is still good. You don't have to take my word for it.

    • I have always given an honest opinion of what I think. I have never lied. In fact one of the issues I have in my past is telling the truth to my own detriment. Now I have learned to just remain silent when I know the outcome to expressing the truth would be to my own disadvantage.

      I don't think people are lying with intentions to deceive others unless they are telling people that they have made trades that they really did not make so that they can talk other into doing the same. To the contrary I think that some people simply regard their own unqualified opinions too highly. They truly believe that they are expressing the truth for various reasons. Some because they are too lazy to vet their own opinions and others because they have too low of an IQ to even understand that what they think needs to be investigated in detail to determine if it is actually correct. Asking them to do that is expecting too much because they don't process an attention span that is long enough to allow them to accomplish that feat. They might be capable of doing it if they had the drive but they lack the drive and tire easily when doing the mental work required so they give up. The latter people often look to others for advice and are biased by the fact that they want to hear things that support how their money is already invested.

      There are also many who believe that what they say here could actually impact the price of the stock which is wrong because the number of people who read these post compared to the number of shares traded at any moment in time is a drop in the bucket. So they try to influence the stock by posting their support of lack of which is a complete waste of their time.

      Some are simply mentally disabled by the fact that they are so used to accepting flawed philosophies expressed by others that it is easy to influence them.

      What we should be doing is trying to obtain understanding with the intention of becoming more capable investors.

    • Surely Not, Dr Clumps is a man of honor as is Iguana Girl, They are trying to keep the less knowlegeable of us from making bad decisons. I dont belive they are shorting this Stock. They are the real Robinhoods. .

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

    • i_hate_stupidity_and_shills i_hate_stupidity_and_shills Jan 8, 2014 8:24 AM Flag

      "The majority of this board is a gathering for liars, imposters, thieves and charlatans with agendas. I have watched as individuals spouted outrageous posts intended to deceive and distort"

      aka, professional hedge fund short traders.

      • 1 Reply to i_hate_stupidity_and_shills
      • I would not be surprised if some of the people posting here don't even live in the US or have the ability to invest in the US stock markets and only post here because they have an audience to read what they say. In all likelihood anything these people say is suspect because they have no skin in the game. I think they should require that people who post here have a brokerage account that allows them to invest in the US. This would also cut down on the nick aliases as the account approval process would be too lengthily to be practical. We are talking about investing in the US companies for the most part.

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