% | $
Quotes you view appear here for quick access.

3M Company Message Board

  • funfundvierzig funfundvierzig Mar 3, 2013 4:09 PM Flag

    What Is That C8 or PFOA Substitute Used To Make DuPont Teflon®?

    What Is That C8 or PFOA Substitute Used To Make DuPont Teflon®?

    Vicious Distracting Personal Attacks & Hate Mail Over the Internet By the Unethical Trash in the DuPont Management Camp Trigger A Need for Further Probing! Why the Dark Secrecy & Evasion?


    Good Evening, Bonsoir, Guten Abend, Buona Sera,

    Readers, independent scientists (not conflicted, bonus-corrupted DuPont "scientists") have found over the years that certain Teflon products or coatings formerly made using C8 or PFOA could under certain conditions break down and release DuPont's extraordinarily toxic, cancer-causing Teflon chemical C8. Given the decades of deception and lying by DuPont's unprincipled executives (See civil prosecution by the U. S. EPA, 2004-2005), consumers have every right to answers to these questions:

    * What C8 substitute is DuPont using to make Teflon® coatings currently?

    * Is there any C8 substitute residing as residue in the Teflon® coating or product? If yes, can it breakdown into something toxic and potentially harmful under certain conditions?

    * What independent tests have been performed and by whom to ascertain the SAFETY of the C8 substitute? What level of exposure to the C8 substitute to DuPont workers, plant neighbours, consumers, especially babies and children is acceptable?

    * Is the U. S. EPA satisfied that the C8 substitute is perfectly SAFE and humanly harmless? Remember DuPont would have never stopped using insidiously toxic C8 had not the powerful EPA demanded its ban and phase-out by the year 2015!

    Without answers to these questions, some intelligent and cautious would-be consumers of products with DuPont's "new" Teflon® may balk and buy something else. And that is not good for the Company's long-suffering shareholders.

    Merely THE SUNDAY SIZE-UP digitally penned by one individual investor and long-time student of the dishonestly deceptive DuPont Company...funfundvierzig...funfun..

    SortNewest  |  Oldest  |  Most Replied Expand all replies
    • Readers, what you have at the bottom of this thread is a desperate attempt by dirty-playing DuPont Management stooge to shut us up and shut us down. This particular heckler, by the hostile I. D. "nomofunfun" has monitored our posts all over the internet and has waged a systematic campaign to smear and discredit us. His tactics: brazen LIES and falsehoods.

      For the record, we have never been fired, terminated, laid-off or asked to leave voluntarily of involuntarily E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Company or any of its subsidiaries or affiliates. Nor have we ever attended the fine University, Aberdeen in Scotland. Nor have we ever pursued a professional endeavor involving Teflon or Teflon chemistry.

      The desperation of these hate-filled hecklers and abusive advocates for DuPont Management, many of whom have disclosed openly, even bragged they work for DuPont as DuPont employees and bonus-paid DuPont Managers, must be mean there is much to hide with respect to this toxic Teflon chemical menace to human health and the environment.

      What a creepy, corrupt organisation the 21st century DuPont has become.


    • wow...were you a witch burner in a prior life. While concerns with teflon process chemistry are is a bit hard to tolerate such hate of science as you are one with any science/chemistry/toxicololgy background would demonstrate the bias I see in your message. You can look up the answers to many of your questions on the new chemistry, but I doubt whether you would understand the assessments anyway.

      according to the cancer society "Teflon and Perfluorooctanoic Acid (PFOA)

      Teflon® is a brand name for a man-made chemical known as polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE). It has been in commercial use since the 1940s. It has a wide variety of applications because it is extremely stable (it doesn't react with other chemicals) and can provide an almost frictionless surface. Most people are familiar with it as a non-stick coating surface for pans and other cookware. It is also used in many other products, such as fabric protectors.
      Perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), also known as C8, is another man-made chemical. It is used in the process of making Teflon and similar chemicals (known as fluorotelomers), although it is burned off during the process and is not present in significant amounts in the final products.
      Do they cause cancer?
      Teflon itself is not suspected to cause cancer. PFOA may be more of a health concern because it can stay in the environment and in the human body for long periods of time. It seems to be present at very low levels in just about everyone's blood. The possible effects of PFOA on cancer risk in humans are not completely understood. Studies in lab rodents have found exposure to PFOA increases the risk of certain tumors of the liver, testicles, mammary glands, and pancreas in these animals. But the results of these studies have not provided sufficient evidence for causing cancer in animals. So far, there is very little data about its ability to cause cancer in people"

      • 2 Replies to stumbleoften
      • Tellingly, folks, this heckler, "stumblebum", pretends to be an "unbiased scientist" but initiates an off-topic personal attack. His mission is clear: PR damage control.

        Query, when it comes to the insidiously toxic C8, why in the world would you believe DuPont Management or their supporters or PR agents when this is the very DuPont Company the business-friendly U. S. EPA in the Bush Administration slammed with the largest civil fine and penalty in the agency's history for two decades' worth of covering up critical C8 studies and covertly and callously contaminating the drinking water supplies with C8 for 100,000 unsuspecting women and men in the Mid-Ohio Valley?


      • Wow, such a nasty personal attack from an obvious shill for DuPont Management with an ax to grind. This pseudo scientist cites an out-of-date PR piece from a charity to suggest the extraordinarily toxic Teflon chemical C8 or PFOA does not cause cancer. It does cause cancer as has been demonstrated in numerous laboratory tests involving mammals done by independent scientists, and more importantly has been inextricably linked to several human cancers in an exhaustive study by three epidemiologists in the C8 Science Panel, financed as part of the settlement of the class action lawsuit in West Virginia involving 100,000 women and men whose drinking water was contaminated with vile DuPont C8. ...funfun..

153.37-0.53(-0.34%)9:50 AMEST