You missed your chance to short this at about 11am it was at 2.38. By the way what drew you to this stock in the first place? are you addicted to the symbol? Many of his here have traded PMI before and know the cyclical nature. Ever made money on this before? ever made money trading a stock period? Like I said the only way you lose money is by hitting the sell button, and then beggin for it to go lower to buy more shares cheap. Your tone stragely changed around noon today when you started bashing. Do you have a job?