With the questionable things this present Board of Directors & Top Management has done over the last several years, I think the "writing is on the Wall" !!!
Jog my memory, A few years ago, didn't the Co. want the Machinest's to work an odd swing shift ??
Also wasn't there some mention about moving the Machine-ing dept. to a different city?? A non-union city !!!
It wouldn't surprise me that "TOP Management" is looking for any excuse to move the Manitowoc Co. to a new Non-Union State. A right to work State.
Nothing would supprise me
Does anyone here hire union to get something done? I sure don't. Can't afford it, but I'll work for a union shop and go to Wal-Mart whenever I can. As long as I get mine the hell with everybody else. My wife is a teacher and boy are we raking it in. Going to the Bahamma's next month. She has sick days to use up.
For all that dont understand You have recall rights as a union member they just cant take the person who has been there the longest with the most benefits and terminate them. Thats part of what this is about.when this all went downhill with the economy at the company employee informational meeting we were told " your lucky you are in a union that you have recall rights. We have to go to Port washington and pennsylvania and terminate people cause they are non-union and we dont lay-off non union people we terminate them" So being a cycleic Business when the cycle turns down you are suppose to start over after you are terminated. How many times are you going to be able to do this before you are not a good risk for this company to hire? THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!
Not sure if everyone is aware or not, but Manitowoc does have non-union crane work going on in Wisconsin. In 2005(?) they purchased one of the ExacTech plants in Port Washington, WI. Most all lower works(crawlers, carbodies, etc) are painted, machined and assembled at this plant just over 50 miles from the Manitowoc plant. The weldments are fabricated in Manitowoc by the boilermakers union people, shipped to Port Washington for painting, machining and assembly by the non-union workforce, then shipped back to Manitowoc for final assembly, testing, and shipping by the IAM union workforce. It’s interesting how many miles these components have traveled before they become part of the final product.
Tailspin you live in a dream world.
Union workers almost always make a higher hourly rate than non-union and cost the company more in benefits, pensions, etc.
To say they only make more because of profit sharing because they are more productive is laughable.
About 10 years ago Ingersoll Rand set out to build Blaw-Knox asphalt pavers with non-union labor. This company was notorious for waging war on unions at any cost. They shuttered the factory in Mattoon,IL which at the time was home of a market-leading line of pavers built by union workers. They opened up shop in another state with what few people they could get to relocate, and that brand is just about history now (pufffff). They are in 3rd or 4th place behind the likes of market leader Caterpillar, a union shop. It was truly a shame, a superior quality machine got tossed into the history books.
Union's aren't evil, they built this country (roads, bridges, dams, power lines, generation stations, cars, trucks, bulldozers, tractors, sky-scrapers). Some companies just have difficulties negotiating the terms. Anytime there is an extended strike, somebody failed to do their job.
They say they are trying to protect the indivivuals that dont want to pay union dues to work there. Well if these same people come in and complain they dont want to pay insurance premiums but want to have the insurance are they going to give them free health insurance. Think about it. Lets get everybody back to work and settle this thing.Weve been profitable with unions for the past 60 years! Why wreck a good thing.NOBODY WINS OR LOSES IN A STRIKE
its not the union that builds America its Americans and immigrants.
I once was a union boiler and chiller mechanic at a union shop and the older guys would do nothing but talk about other workers and play mind games with less senior employees. the older guys just would not do there jobs and point fingers at there fellow co-workers when things went wrong. after a while i could not deal with the drama and quit.
I now work at a non union shop and was promoted to manager after 6 months. I make twice as much money as i did before and its cause of my hard work and my strive to better myself not my union rep. if you have a fear of losing your job or you think your not getting paid enough for your work it should reflect on you as a worker not the companies unfair practices.
this is America and the old ways of bad companies are gone. Just stay hungry and work hard. MTW should go non union and weed out the lazy, good for nothing workers. IMHO
First, I made no mention of the money the union top brass was paid, I only mentioned benefit to each party. I will dismiss your misunderstanding because you wrote this before lunch and were probably suffering from a late morning glucose nadir. If the union losses a large employer the union suffers, no question so the thing that benefits the union is making sure that they have value in the eyes of their members. Look back at the history of guilds, it goes way back into the middle ages and the story hasn't changed.
Second, do you mind sourcing that information on the pay of the top brass for the machinst union? I am sure you know the figures, but I wanted to take a look just to make sure.
Which Way? How about the quality of the product being produced? We here in Wisconsin used tax dollars to attract Chrysler and AMC, plus incentives for General Motors. The companies took the money and then in a few years left. In the case of Chrysler they went to Mexico with the wiring harness business and then had lots of problems with their wiring harnesses. Of course the executives got a bonus. So much for taxpayer help.