Look at TDC for what may be a potential NUAN track. 4-5x rev, steady growth, broad market presence, cloud connected, supplier to diverse users, stand alone basic core technology. 4 years ago 15, then 30, now 70, looking for next run. Maybe dreaming! Anyone know what Ricci unexercised options overhang looks like? I think it's a big number especially if we get back to 30 and more. I'll take that over back to 10 and he gets buttkus.