guess you didnt read last qtr's report where-in for starters subs exceeded T by nearly 10 to 1. VZ div yeild is nearly = to T and yet vz P/E is lower. We are going into the holiday season where device sales and subs will INCEASE, not to mention the sunami of data consuming devices coming in the next qtrs via the mobile boom. VZ has concentrated efforts in cloud,b2b data where growth will be in the double digits.. T has announced major spending on its network expansion which will reduce growth to 3-5% whereas VZ already has a larger network and growth rate exceeds T going fwd.etc etc etc