Where do you think Redbook, in addition to Cosmo,
Good Housekeeping, Country Living etc are? They're on
women.com's website. And who do you think will be advertised
in all these magazines and on numerous tv stations
that Hearst owns? Women.com. And who continues to pull
away from IVIL in the Media Metrix top websites
report? Women.com. Who has content from 13 different
magazines available to them? Women.com! There is no
comparison...omda/ivil is not the question here. The question is how
quickly will women.com squash ivil? With the cash from
the IPO, women.com will continue to grow and acquire
companies. Buy women.com the day it goes public and you'll
be very happy.
Its still the same old story. You can't have your
cake and eat it to. Ivillage cannot continue to give
away what they offer and have half a chance of
surviving. In spite of their site being free, the number of
new, unique visitors visiting Ivillage is fading. They
may offer a free service that's apealing to some, but
the key word here is "FREE". You can't make a profit
on "free". In plain black and white, they made the
statement that, "they don't plan on making a profit into
the forseable future". HEEEEEELLOOOOO! The company
plans on getting killed - into the foreseable future.
What that means, in real terms, is that the insiders
who own stock will sell it off (continue to sell off
in small chuncks) over the course of the next few
months, bank their millions, buy their boats, build their
estates on remote islands, then let the company go
completely in the tank at the expense of the
speculators.......and why not? And why shouldn't they? The blissful
speculator has bid this stock up to bizzare valuations even
when the company comes right out and says, "Ivillage
will never make a cent in my lifetime - but us
INSIDERS will". Read between the lines. The insiders are
making a fortune
This company is scary, folks. The article was
kind toward IVIL, if you can believe that. I've heard
it called things that I won't repeat - and the fowl
reputation is earned. Please, please pay attention to the
company's statement in the article, that "we do not plan to
make a profit into the foreseable
future".........HEEEELLOOOOOOOO! It's there, in plain black and white, and its
true. Don't kid yourselves, this money pit has no
intention of ever making a buck.
i read on the vaultreports.com message board for
ivillage some pretty weird stuff about iVillage hiting
(and firing) practices... can anyone here tell me what
the deal is?
that board is
Using the computer for all manners of information
gathering and e-commerce is more prevalent today than most
people in my age range think. Science fiction has always
seemed to be little more a farfetched genre, however
most of what I saw in movies just 10 years ago is
coming to pass in the field of computer technology.
Gen-Xers are the future of the e-commerce realm...they
will be the backbone of internet sites of all types.
You spoke of magazines available on the
internet...too many to count for sure. However, I have found
only one free publication dealing with women - New
Mother - all others are paid subscriptions. This is
important because not everyone is a magazine junkie needing
every issue either delivered to their home (via
internet or snail mail) or purchasing in the store while
checking out. Why purchase an entire publication when you
may be interested in only one article dealing with a
particular topic important to you. With OMDA I can choose
the articles I want to read without having to buy an
entire magazine or subscribing to a year's worth of
weeding through issues and stories that do not interest
The trend is also leaning towards
shopping without having to load the kids in the car and
drag them through the stores where young children have
little interest in things other than the toy department.
I belive the intrinsic value of OMDA lies in their
many offerings, including on-line shopping. Families
and individuals can conduct all manners of business
on the internet, freeing up their time for more
important activities, like hitting the great outdoors
without foregoing the need to be up-to-date on issues and
buying either that great toy for their kid(s) or that
knockout sweater for thier spouse.
long on OMDA and will keep the faith that success is
in this company's future.
You mentioned the many magazines on the counters
and book shelves at the thousands of stores across
America. IVIL and OMDA have absolutley nothing these
periodicals don't already provide, or couldn't provide if it
made sense for them to do so. In other words, Ivillage
and OMDA are "Johnny come latelys" to an already
overcrowded sector, nothing more. There are literaly hundreds
of women-focused peridicals out there, and almost
all of them have there own web-sites. OMDA, IVIL, and
shesgotit offer nothing new....give me a break. Same stuff,
different wrapper, and the wrapper is easily imitated and
duplicated (via the internet). OMDA is crashing because even
the speculators can see through the smoke and haze.
Ivillage has, so far, been a novelty among some groups.
You know, an "internet only" magazine.........as I
hear one of their customers ask if anyone has
remembers where she left her brain. Ivillage, in my
opinion, will fade completely in the next 12 to 18 months.
OMDA is already dead.
As with most specialized products, websites
dedicated specifically to women could just fizzle out and
disappear for lack of interest. However, with three sites
and counting there must be something to this market
niche - just like the over-the-counter magazines
stacked at the checkout stands in the grocery store and
the racks and racks in all other stores. Women of all
ages are interested in what others have to say - life
stories, shared experiences, common interests, etc. Women
are conditioned at an early age - Teen Magazine and
the others that sport stories on how to get that boy
to like you and what to do with that pimple on prom
night. The stories have changed to investments and
raising baby, but the message is still the same...read
our offerings because we have the information you
Althought OMDA has fallen below 1 - which I never thought I
would see I maintain my optomistic outlook for its
eventual success. I have compared Women.Com, I-Village,
and She'sGotItTogether...Ivil and Women.com are
mirror images of each other - She'sGotIt stands apart
because of the ever changing face of the homepage...it is
not a cheap regurgitation of just another site.
The only problem I have with She'sGotIt is the lack
of regular information about the company - I've seen
this before with other stocks though, and after long
delays I have witnessed the stock taking off - so I
stand strong and long on OMDA.
Have a great day
This is more competition to IVIL. I agree with
everything lose_cash says about IVIL. If it is possible to
make a profit with a woman's web site, everyone will
move in with a site. Anyway, woman.com is planning an
IPO soon (don't know exactly when), and you can read
about it at ipocental.com. I am shorting IVIL, and
expect to cover at 20 sometime in August.
I still hold to my original position - if there's
money to be made, competitors will come, and not
neccesarily in the form of new upstarts. Women's publications
are one of the obvious choices to move into this
market - if it's profitable. Womans Day, Redbook, Better
Homes and Gardens, and etc could easily expand their
product base to include what Ivillage offers. Womens
publications, such as these, already have a strong and loyal
customer base, brand recognition, and they know how to
target their customers. A move in this direction is an
absolute no brainer - IF there's money to be made.
Ivillage, in my opinion, is a grape waiting to be squashed.
Let them pull in OMDA - it won't save them. The heavy
weights are sitting in the wings, watching and waiting.
If there's even a hint of profitability and revenue
growth in this sector, IVIL will have a war on their
hands, and it's a war they can't win - long term.