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  • dr_max_facts dr_max_facts Feb 27, 2007 2:17 PM Flag

    READ, Intel to Dominate through 2008

    hey Amdroids read it and weep. AMD = dead money


    posted 1:11pm EST Tue Feb 27 2007

    I keep reading article after article about Intel's continuing onslaught of faster products (Core 2 Duo-based), as well as upcoming process revision shrinks to 45 nm (some of which will be released this year in production), including new process technologies used at the 45nm design node. When I do I cannot help but come to the following conclusion: Intel will absolutely dominate x86 space through at least the end of 2008. The only thing I can see that might change that is if AMD's upcoming K10 architecture (see our coverage is something phenomenal ... and it doesn't look like it will be.

    Both IBM and Intel announced on the same day that they had radical advances in process generation technology for the 45 nm node (see our coverage). Intel made the claim of high-k dielectrics and a new metal layer base that would reduce leakage by 10 times over current technologies. Intel will be using an air-based solution at 45 nm, while IBM/AMD are using an immersion technology. Intel will switch to immersion at 32 nm.

    If the claims made by Intel are true and the second generation of 45 nm parts we see are based on the new 10x-less leakage technology, we will have an absolute winner. AMD--unless IBM's solution is anywhere near Intel's--will be forced into oblivion. We will see Intel rise up from its former position of playing second string to AMD's AMD64-based technology for those few years when Netburst was all the rage at Intel and instead put on the garments of a revamped Pentium-M in the form of Core 2, the results of which will be an absolute pounding on AMD, in marketshare reclamation, profits, and reputation.

    In the months that come--again, save K10 being something really, really special--Intel will give the world a front seat to a thriller in semiconductor circles that has no equal to date. We will witness the removal of AMD as a significant player and--unless it can restructure its debt and find other sources of revenue from its ATI acquisition--will see it gobbled up by some raider corporation that will sell it off for parts.

    http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2007Feb/bch20070227002945.htm

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    • "As we can see, the practical power consumption of Kentsfield processor is 75% higher than that of Conroe CPU working at the same clock frequency, which is pretty close to the theoretical numbers. However, despite this fact the new quad-core Intel processors are still more economical than the As we can see, the practical power consumption of Kentsfield processor is 75% higher than that of Conroe CPU working at the same clock frequency, which is pretty close to the theoretical numbers. However, despite this fact the new quad-core Intel processors are still more economical than the dual-core Athlon 64 FX-62 and the latest revisions of the dual-core Presler based CPUs.

      In other words, you shouldnt really worry about the high heat dissipation of the new Kentsfield processors. Our test session suggests that from the heat dissipation prospective Core 2 Extreme QX6700 is comparable with AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+, and Core 2 Quad Q6600 with the Energy Efficient modification of Athlon 64 X2 4200+.2 and the latest revisions of the dual-core Presler based CPUs."

      Intel decided to knock down AMD one more time. They got far ahead of their rival and today Intel introduced the worlds first quad-core desktop processor. Lets take a closer look at this solution and find out whether the todays infrastructure is ready for such dramatic parallelism increase.

      Luckily, we have finally got some Kentsfield samples for our lab, therefore, we are proud to share with you the results of real indepth test session. Of course, this review was only possible because these processors are officially announced today. So, if you get really interested in the new Intel Kentsfield processor, you should be able to easily buy one for your system or to get a complete Kentsfield based platform from one of Intels partners.

      Therefore, we can state that today we witness the beginning of new processor expansion into the desktop market, only these CPUs have more than two cores onboard. Note that it took Intel only one and a half years to move from dual-core processors towards quad-core processor designs, which proves that Intel is being very serious about pursuing higher parallelism.

      However, despite this fact, Core 2 Extreme QX6700 launch is definitely a success. Firstly, Intel was brave enough to push the multi-core concept into the market. Intel was the one to give software developers to understand that the time has come to revise their algorithms dramatically. The upcoming year 2007 should become a turning point: we expect a lot of new applications that would benefit from systems on multi-core processors.

      Moreover, smart pricing policy makes Core 2 Extreme QX6700 a very attractive purchase today already. Its frequency is only 10% lower than that of the top Conroe CPU, Core 2 Extreme X6800. So, Core 2 Extreme QX6700 will be just a little bit slower than the predecessor in applications that do not support multi-threading. However, the are priced equivalently, so that the users looking at the price-to-performance ratio in the first place will be able to consider Kentsfield as a possible good choice. Especially since it will be extremely efficient in case of several tasks running in parallel even if they are not optimized for multi-threading. And in optimized apps, Core 2 Extreme QX6700 is unattainably fast.

      So, even if you do not yet see any tangible benefits from the quad-core Kentsfield processors for your particular case, the situation will undoubtedly change very soon. This new Intel solution has big future ahead."


      http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2extreme-qx6700_13.html

    • you tell them peter, lol

    • hahahahehe

      bend over Amdtards, Penryn Pennis going to rip you a new hole.

    • "Penryn sounds too much like pennis to be taken seriously."

      I would see a doctor about your Penryn Pennis obsession. Obsessions are involuntary, seemingly uncontrollable thoughts, phallic images, or impulsive mastubation that occur over and over again. The person does not want to have these ideas, finds them disturbing and intrusive, and usually recognizes that they don�t really make sense. They commonly crop up when someone is trying to focus on an intentional thought or investment activity.

      AMD stockholders with OCD may worry excessively about having a small pennis and be obsessed with the idea that all other pennis are bigger which could very well be true. Obsessions are accompanied by uncomfortable feelings, such as fear, disgust, doubt, and shrinkage.

      OCD is not usually curable, but it is highly treatable, in that effective treatment can greatly reduce the occurrence of obsessive thoughts and compulsive ritual masturbation. A combination of behavior therapy and medication seems to offer the best long-term improvement. In extreme cases a sex change would be prescribed. AMD investors are most prone to pennis envy obsession, well endowed Intel and Nvidia investors are the source of AMD stockholder's feelings of phallic deficiencies.

    • If things are so great for Intel and so bad for AMD then why doesn't the Price of Intel Stock reflect that??? AMD stock price has sold off from a very Overvalued Price of $42 Down to around $14 and seems to be Holding. During that time Intel has Sold Off from around $28 down to $16, back up to around $22.50 and NOW Down to around $19 and showing very Weak support at this time. WS just doesn't agree with the Rosy outlook for Intel and the Gloomy Outlook for AMD. Not at this time....

      Seems WS doesn't view Intel's Outlook as all that great at this time. Intel will have to show that it's Technological lead can Produce Good Gross Profit Margins (60%) and good Earnings, Better than $1.40 per share for 2007 and 2008. If they can't Earn Money than their results are meaningless. AMD could simple replace their current management, sell off the ATI mess for at least half of their purchase (mistake) and get back to Earning Good Profits with only 25% market share as they did before. AMD's current problems are due to bad management and NOT their lack of capability to compete with Intel and make a Profit. If AMD reverts back to where they were without Ruiz's current path they will remain a serious and sucessful competitor to Intel. But AMD's failures DO NOT necessariarly mean Success for Intel. That seems to be what WS is "saying" at this time. That may never change. None of us know how this will eventually pay out. Seems to me at this time Both AMD and Intel are not pursuing sound business principles and that is the way WS sees it...

    • I just can't wait for 45nm Penryn, hope Intel brings it out early. AMD Barcebaloney won't have a snowballs chance in hell.

      "Intel will give the world a front seat to a thriller in semiconductor circles that has no equal to date. We will witness the removal of AMD as a significant player and--unless it can restructure its debt and find other sources of revenue from its ATI acquisition--will see it gobbled up by some raider corporation that will sell it off for parts."

    • I don't see AMD's 65nm Barlelona beating 45nm Penryn in fact I see Intel blazing benchmarks beating Barcelona's butt. If that happens AMD might have to turn off the light and go work for Intel or Nvidia.

      Swami Ted

      • 1 Reply to rambus_ted
      • hey Swami, All Intel needs to do is up its CPU and FSB speeds on its current 65n chips to meet and beat Barcelona benchmarks. Intel Quadcores at 3.2GHz or higher will cost much less than AMD's Barcelona. Faster 65nm Intel Quadcores will be the biggest bang for the buck. Intel is also ready to unleash its high end high margin 45nm Penryn and that will nail AMD's high cost low yield Barcelona coffin shut. AMD R.I.P.

    • Intel has the best chips NOT AMD. AMD's market share will dwindle margins will shrink.

    • learn to read, read to learn.

      posted 1:11pm EST Tue Feb 27 2007

      I keep reading article after article about Intel's continuing onslaught of faster products (Core 2 Duo-based), as well as upcoming process revision shrinks to 45 nm (some of which will be released this year in production), including new process technologies used at the 45nm design node. When I do I cannot help but come to the following conclusion: Intel will absolutely dominate x86 space through at least the end of 2008. The only thing I can see that might change that is if AMD's upcoming K10 architecture (see our coverage is something phenomenal ... and it doesn't look like it will be.

      Both IBM and Intel announced on the same day that they had radical advances in process generation technology for the 45 nm node (see our coverage). Intel made the claim of high-k dielectrics and a new metal layer base that would reduce leakage by 10 times over current technologies. Intel will be using an air-based solution at 45 nm, while IBM/AMD are using an immersion technology. Intel will switch to immersion at 32 nm.

      If the claims made by Intel are true and the second generation of 45 nm parts we see are based on the new 10x-less leakage technology, we will have an absolute winner. AMD--unless IBM's solution is anywhere near Intel's--will be forced into oblivion. We will see Intel rise up from its former position of playing second string to AMD's AMD64-based technology for those few years when Netburst was all the rage at Intel and instead put on the garments of a revamped Pentium-M in the form of Core 2, the results of which will be an absolute pounding on AMD, in marketshare reclamation, profits, and reputation.

      In the months that come--again, save K10 being something really, really special--Intel will give the world a front seat to a thriller in semiconductor circles that has no equal to date. We will witness the removal of AMD as a significant player and--unless it can restructure its debt and find other sources of revenue from its ATI acquisition--will see it gobbled up by some raider corporation that will sell it off for parts.

    • Run and hide Amdroids Intel 45nm is coming.

      "Intel will give the world a front seat to a thriller in semiconductor circles that has no equal to date."

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