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  • snobordnutt snobordnutt Jan 12, 2010 10:39 PM Flag

    Let My Posts Decide what My Motives Are

    All a Basher has to do is be your friend. Come into your house shake your hand. Eventually gain your confidence and slowly begin to create doubt in your mind It's a game played by Hedges that want your shares. Theybring peeps in to do this as it adds to their position and is part of the game called investing.

    Here is some of Mad's posts


    Oct.17 Post150
    Read carefully my post! I have no position in HLCS and not intended to take one. I used to like this kind of company in the past but no more.

    Then on Dec.15 post 90.He said this:
    Well, I must confess, I took a position but sold it around 1.56 when it was coming down from 2s.

    He claims in his posts to provide a balance view? On Dec.17 post 65:
    I come here to provide a balanced view than being totally negative or positive. I have never told anybody to sell or buy.

    Then on Dec. 15 post 87. just 2 days earlier than his so called balanced post he said this:
    Re: God help HLCS!
    I truly feel sorry for these house rats, who simply forgot when to fold and move on. I made money on my first trade but lost a little in second. This is a poorly run company with...

    He has a mission.
    1. To get you to sell your shares
    a. Why do they want them?
    1.It comes down to money
    The shares as they stand are worth more in the Hedges opinion than the PPS is now at.
    2. The shares are going up in the Hedges opinion or they wouldn't provide for us a paid babysitter softly working his way into your living room and mind until he convinces you it is in your best interest to sell your shares encouraging you on the good decision you made?
    3. This is purely speculation on my part. If there is a sale of the company what is the price? If its 500 Million where would the PPS be? At 103 million MCAP now and a PPS of 1.31 @ 500 Million the PPS would be 1.31X 4.85= $6.36. It would be a shame if you missed out on that gainer from this level a 480% gainer.

    THE BASHERS HANDBOOK Please Read

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    • Warning folks, nobody wants these shares. Insiders don't want them at .14cent! No sales,
      no income, directors and important staff is leaving or
      has gone. Check yourself folks its in all the sec filings! These guys all work as a team
      and have been pumping this stock from 3.50 all the way to
      .14 cents! Thats a pump and dump!Warning, there next step if
      tthere court case fails is BK!

      Investors should do serious DD
      in this company before buying!!!

    • Great pumper post. dis a basher and then put some ridiculous buyout price.

      51 ticks left. Tick Tick Tick Tick.

    • hello snob, boris, hlouie and the rest of the long timers here...(its doc) still here and still holding... last time i spoke with snob he was enroute to aruba. boris and the longs continue to hold strong.(keep up the good work guys) hope all are doing well...
      it is obvious that we will be bought out! for how much? too much tech, too many insiders being insiders. I check the board daily and from time to time miss the "old days of this board".
      work is miserable, hours suck, but im hanging in!
      cmon snob jump back in a bit!!! good luck to all the faithful!

    • bump.

    • By Tom Martin
      aka "Steve Tracy"
      aka "Firebird_1965"
      Part 1 of 3

      Today I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I
      cannot undo some
      of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent
      other such occurrences
      in the future.

      I am a paid basher.

      Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I?m moving on
      to a new job. But
      before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn?t
      right and I won?t feel
      good about myself until I expose this sham. It?s hurt too many people
      and I don?t want it
      on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.

      I work for a company called Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein in
      Stamford, CT.
      Basically, it?s a Boiler Room much like the one in the movie of the
      same name. The
      idea behind my group is to bash the price of a company?s stock down
      low enough to
      where the group of investors who retained our company?s services can
      buy the stock
      really cheap and perhaps even take it over all together.

      There are approximately 70 people at the company divided into several
      groups. My
      group, consisting of 5 people, is responsible for BIFS. While I
      probably shouldn?t give
      any names of anyone working here now, what the heck, I?m leaving
      here, so what can
      they do ? sue me? Ha! I can tell you that GUTTWRENCH was part of my
      group until he
      left last week, as was Richardphx. Others who have been part of this
      include early
      bashers like Epiphonics and Simontaz. You may be interested to know
      that some
      hypsters, such as Amato7 and BIFWATCHER, have also been part of the
      scam (more
      on that later).

      There are several companies engaged in the bashing business ? ours is
      not the only
      one. However, I can tell you that not every basher in here is a paid
      basher. Having done
      this for two years, I can usually tell who is a paid basher and who
      is merely someone
      having a little fun. While unpaid bashers have a different motive
      than someone like me,
      they can be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve my ultimate
      goal and they also
      spread rumor and confusion throughout a room, which also helps me.

      What is that goal? Well, I am merely a cog in a much larger machine,
      so my bosses
      never really explained the big picture to me, but I?d say
      essentially, GUTTWRENCH was
      right. There are several companies who are quite familiar with SWOMI
      and who are
      deathly afraid of it.

      There are three types of bashers here at Franklin, Andrews, Kramer &
      Edelstein:
      Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An Advanced-level basher (also
      known as a
      Silver Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading information
      about the company.
      They would deal in facts, countering every longs post with articles,
      news reports and
      opinion surveys that gave a negative impression about the company.

      Continued in next post

      • 1 Reply to snobordnutt
      • Part2 of 3

        An Intermediate-level basher (also known as a Serpent) would try to
        weasel their way
        into the confidence of longs and create doubt using rumor or
        innuendo.

        Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as a Pitchfork) would
        attempt to create
        confusion in the room by distracting other posters with satire, name
        calling and
        pointless arguments. The idea was to make sure no serious discussion
        of the stock
        could take place. A Pitchfork was usually a basher, but not always.
        Sometimes, we
        would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as Amato7 or BIFSWATCHER to
        create the
        illusion of an argument going on. What was really funny (in a
        perverse way, I guess) was
        that Amato7 and I sat next to each other, laughing the whole time.

        I was a Pitchfork. I was paid a base wage of $12 an hour for my
        services. I was given a
        $1 bonus for every post over 100 per day as well as a monthly bonus
        of $100 for every
        penny the stock had dropped from the previous month. I was also paid
        a bonus for
        bashing on weekends. While this may not sound like much, I made a
        decent, though
        dishonorable, paycheck.

        Each of us sat in a small half-cubicle in a cluster with our
        teammates. Each group
        (usually five people) was made of three beginners (two who would bash
        and one who
        would hype), one intermediate and one advanced level basher.
        Occasionally for some
        of the hotter stocks, one of the beginners would be replaced by an
        intermediate
        depending on how much the stock was rising. BIFS was a low-level
        stock, meaning it
        got the 3-1-1 configuration.
        Somehow, I get the feeling that JPACK2 may have worked for a basher
        company or
        knows someone who does because the "Basher Handbook" he occasionally
        posts is
        eerily similar to the one we actually use. While not a word-for-word
        match, I?d say it is
        about 90 percent the same. We do have certain rules that we follow.

        First, we have to develop a character and stay within that character
        in order to build a
        "following." My character, "Firebird_1965," was a sarcastic,
        obnoxious supporter of free
        speech, but only when it came to bashers.

        Next, we had to follow certain guidelines on what we could say. We
        were urged to have
        an "answer" to every long?s question, but we were to frame that
        answer in a way that
        ridiculed the questioner for asking such a question. However, we were
        never to use
        profanity or vulgarity because that would cause people to ignore us.
        We were to make
        fun of people, but in a civil way. The idea was to get "play," i.e. ?
        reaction from other
        posters. The more play we got, the more the room would be disrupted.
        Ignored posters
        get no play. One exception would be the hypster ? since they
        were "defending" the
        stock against our onslaught, they got a little more leeway. People
        would side with the
        hypster because they thought he was real since he appeared to be on
        their side, but
        was really on ours, setting us up to disrupt the room. Padelcars is
        quite good at this and
        gets paid very well.

        Continued in next post

    • Not worried about the bashers snow just todays news.

 
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