I emailed you the text of the Kashner report (or at least tried). Did you get it?? Oh yeah, and I want to apologize on behave of texman and myself for being to dense to understand the wonderous possibilites of VAPH. After all the stooges, I mean management team is top notch. It takes a special man to balance a dog food business with leading VAPH to AMGN status. John (he must be here somewhere too), how do you do it???