Ah, yes, emotions must triumph over what is correct, shouldn't they? By the way, since you are former AF, what's your opinion of Mig-29 and Su -17? Really hard to compare objectively to F-16, F-15 since most pilots flying the Soviet/Russian planes are very inept. Of all countries, do you consider any to have a worthwhile AF (other than US and UK, lets leave France out for this discussion). Being from an AF background myself, just curious to get an opinion from another.