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  • prisonet prisonet Mar 19, 2001 1:09 AM Flag

    ACA Accreditation...a joke...

    ACA is self-serving as is the fox guarding the hen house. It's a certificate for keeping polished floors and fresh paint while staff are geared away from their primary mission, security and public safety. This seems to be the concensus of correctional officers who go through the process.

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    • I am not Anti-TDOC. Just making a few points. All departments have room for improvement. I read today that the federal judge out of New Orleans is getting ready to lift the federal court order off the back of TDOC. They have been operating under this cloud since 1974 I think. This should be good news for the department.

      P.S. The wardens I know from texas are Blanchete,Myers,Garner,Peterson,Hubert,and Turner. Most of them from CXW.

    • you were aware of Estelle and Beto. Was a while back. I was also not aware you were so anti-TDCJ.

    • It is such a big joke that 17 states are currently in the process of having their entire department of corrections accredited by ACA. Big joke! Lousiana has been accredited, under Mr. Stalder. Since that time their lawsuits by inmates have dropped 42%. The quality of live for inmate residents has improved. This in turn saves the taxpayers millions in Lawsuits. Big Joke! Some might say OSHA is a big joke as well. They has saved thousands of lives. ACA is like any other governing body, you get out what you put in.
      I am sure you would like to return to the days where a inmate is locked down 23 hrs a day. Served cold meals, and if they complain beat the tar out of them. A clean facility is a must, if they live in dirt without any stucture then what kind of inmate are we returning to the general public. It is a fact that 94% of inmates in general population will return to the streets. They need to be a better product than they were when we assumed custody of them. ACA is just a small tool in the process. If all you see is a waxed floor and fresh coat of paint then thats all you will get out of the process if you are that shallow.

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      • Take it easy dude. These warm and fuzzy feelings of accreditation soon go away and reality sets in after they go away. Stadler is/was president of ACA. Seems a little self-serving don't you think. Why do you need outsiders to tell you what you should do? You don't need ACA to tell you how to keep a clean facility. Why pay the tens of thousands of dollars to learn from x-directors and x-wardens who couldn't chew gum and walk at the same time?

        ACA offers nothing. I know you disagree but ACA is no yardstick. Lawsuits have dropped because of PLRA, not because of the efforts of ACA.

        As far as returning to the past, yes I would like for inmates in solitary confinement(not seg)to get the 3 vegatables a day they used to get. I doubt you'll find many on this board that disagree with that.

        You're very liberal in your views of how inmates should be treated. It's almost as if you think they're customers. But of course you do, you make money off them. They rent your beds.

        I believe and have practiced all my professional career to be 'firm but fair' with inmates. Prison should be reality therapy. I've learned from the best and the best was W.J. Estelle. If an inmate wants to change then that change comes from the heart. I am sorry you were supervised by some who thought beating inmates was the only way to get their attention. I hope you were never guilty of that yourself. You seem to be above that.

        Perhaps you also think OSHA could be privatized?

    • second that motion.

      It was a farce. I conducted a revealing experiment to prove to myself and some trusted friends that it was just that - a sham and no more than a rubber stamp for CCA. Hell, even both logos are similar.

      It fooled nobody - especially the Private Sector CDOC honcho. But then again, he owned PZN stock at the time which I and others thought was a conflict of interest.

      Anyway, prisonet, standby for JACK's tirade comeback...

      - Sparks

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