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  • rehdvm2004 rehdvm2004 Jan 29, 2013 12:57 PM Flag

    Some people have a very limited capability of being educated . . .

    Case in point . . . while there are some forms of pneumonia that do not have an infective component (like lipid pneumonia from breathing lipids, toxic gas, fumes, dust, stomach acid, etc.) . . . why would any physician prescribe a liposome (amikacin containing) antibiotic to a patient that did not have a bacterial component to their pneumonia?!? But stupidity aside, there is an ideologic war on this MB that precludes any logic from being applied or honest debate. But pneumonia is based on not just infection, but accumulation of bacterial substrate (like blood or exudated plasma) that allows the bacteria to replicate out of control. That causes the accumulation of debris that protect the bacteria (bacteria can live in pus) and prevents the antibiotic from reaching the bacteria to kill the organism. That is simply the medical difference between pneumonia and respiratory infection.

    Sentiment: Buy

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    • rehdvm2004•Jan 29, 2013 12:57 PM
      Case in point . . . while there are some forms of pneumonia that do not have an infective component (like lipid pneumonia from breathing lipids, toxic gas, fumes, dust, stomach acid, etc.) . . . why would any physician prescribe a liposome (amikacin containing) antibiotic to a patient that did not have a bacterial component to their pneumonia?!? But stupidity aside, there is an ideologic war on this MB that precludes any logic from being applied or honest debate. But pneumonia is based on not just infection, but accumulation of bacterial substrate (like blood or exudated plasma) that allows the bacteria to replicate out of control. That causes the accumulation of debris that protect the bacteria (bacteria can live in pus) and prevents the antibiotic from reaching the bacteria to kill the organism. That is simply the medical difference between pneumonia and respiratory infection.

    • Why would any physician prescribe an antibiotic for any form of pneumonia that did not have a bacterial infection component? The debate about Arikace - a liposomal encapsulated antibiotic - was the difference between a "respiratory infection" versus "pneumonia." An easily accessible reference was provided to explain the difference. I assumed that anyone who read the post and referemce could understand and comment intelligently. Pulmonary infection is of the mucous membrane or mucous coat alone. No excess secretions, exudate or transudate. "Infective" hemorraghic pneumonia has blood leaking into the airways and alveoli. "Infective" fibrinous pneumonia has plasma (which clots and leaves fibrin) in the airways. "Infective" purulent pneumonia has white blood cells that marginate into the airways. Etc. That was implicit to the discussion and understanding. The point was pneumonia is not a simple infection of the mucous membrane or mucous coat, like a "pulmonary infection." So be it. bcda is incapable of discerning the difference. She is just religated to being a paper pusher for the rest of her life.

      Sentiment: Buy

    • Case in point . . . while there are some forms of pneumonia that do not have an infective component (like lipid pneumonia from breathing lipids, toxic gas, fumes, dust, stomach acid, etc.) . . . why would any physician prescribe a liposome (amikacin containing) antibiotic to a patient that did not have a bacterial component to their pneumonia?!? But stupidity aside, there is an ideologic war on this MB that precludes any logic from being applied or honest debate. But pneumonia is based on not just infection, but accumulation of bacterial substrate (like blood or exudated plasma) that allows the bacteria to replicate out of control. That causes the accumulation of debris that protect the bacteria (bacteria can live in pus) and prevents the antibiotic from reaching the bacteria to kill the organism. That is simply the medical difference between pneumonia and respiratory infection.
      Sentiment: Buy

    • rummy, you have to be struggling with some type of weird sickness or something. This is a copy and paste of exactly what your post said - (Contrary to posts on this MB) pneumonia is NOT a respiratory infection.

      You even put NOT in all caps.

      Now you point out that a rare case of pneumonia - lipid pneumonia, does not have a bacterial component. I agree. Why didn't you say that the first time?

      Then you post this - But stupidity aside, there is an ideologic war on this MB that precludes any logic from being applied or honest debate.

      I'm happy for you to call me stupid, but you are the dishonest one.

      Sentiment: Strong Buy

 
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