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  • jpinst jpinst Jul 31, 2000 6:29 PM Flag

    I'm here and watching...

    Anything that makes UTSI stock go up is good,
    right? I would like to see the stock hit 40+ again. If
    that were to happen, there would be an awful lot of
    happy people, right?

    I am not here to "talk up"
    or "talk down" any stock. I am more interested in
    duscussing what this news means.

    Yes I was worried
    about earnings, but I am not surprised they were there.
    I am surprised that they were as good as
    reported.

    Now to the "however" part. I can hear the swords
    being drawn already...We all knew that the MII decision
    was not going to affect this quarter's earnings,
    correct? The decision was only a matter of weeks ago. Even
    UTSI said it would not hurt this quarter's earnnings.
    If there is a probelem cuased by tthe MII decision,
    it will likely show up during the next two
    quarters.

    You can also see how reliant UTSI is on PAS. 75% is
    no joke, and is the bulk of the company's earnings.
    A significant drop in PAS sales would be
    devastating. All I kept hearing was how great PHS is and how
    its so much better than GSM. Now, why the forray into
    GSM? I believe it is the result of a reevaluation of
    the current position the company is in. If thay can
    not sell PHS they are screwed, right? I believed that
    enetering the GSM market is all about covering their ass
    after getting the message that the PRC government
    dislikes PHS.

    This may be good, becuase China
    already has an established GSM network. The only problem
    is that the telecom giants have been sellling GSM in
    China for almost 15 years now. They are entrenched and
    have divided the country up into exclusive areas or
    markets which they alone control. This may change some
    after WTO entry. Getting into GSM at this point is
    going to be a hard sell, and I am not sure UTSI can
    offer a better deal than the big three.

    Also,
    UTSI is not used to competing with the big three
    telecom giants. This was never their mission---they sold
    their products in the past in markets in which the big
    three were not interested at all. In addittion, there
    is already a wealth of Chinese domestic companies
    that manufacture GSM hardware. We will have to wait
    and see, for only the makrket can tell.

    The
    big question is why did they wait until now to eneter
    the GSM market? Are they admitting gross errors on
    their part on evaluating the Chinese
    marketplace?

    They need to make this transition this quarter if they
    want to keep up the momentum. That means they need to
    start moving product soon. One thing that I will almost
    gaurantee is that you will see PHS revenues drop off
    significantly during the next two quarters. I am not going to
    argue this pooint with you if you do not understand the
    actions of the Chinese government regarding
    PHS.

    The bottom line is that we hope the stock goes up.
    The only thing that matters is how the MM's interpret
    this data. If they see a problem in the message, then
    its not going anywhere. Last I checked, UTSI was up
    1/16 in after hours. Then again, I remeber the time it
    droped 15+ in after hours. Lets see what happens.
    However, I am still not convinced this will skyrocket, nor
    that the days of worrying are over
    either....

    One more note Xtacitly, I can assure you that I have
    more education than you can ever hope to have. I am
    not talking about a masters degree either. Unless you
    have 5 University diplomas, inlcuding a masters and
    and JD, then it is you the one who should be
    criticized for being so ignorant. However, I would never
    stoop so low as to compare myself to you....

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    • Just like you wrote yesterday, that's the great
      thing about the internet...you can say anything or be
      anybody you want to. Now, let's get back to the "i'm so
      loyal to UTSI that I let Hong Lu ram my ass daily
      xtacticly......" that's the guy who probably watched UTSI break
      through 30 and then go back down to 23. You keep saying
      you are long, what is going on man? You sold? I
      thought it was going to 100+?

      Anyway, how much
      could you have made realisticly, a couple grand or are
      you going to tell me that you're like Odin and
      invested $10 million and 6 points to you was hundreds of
      thousands of dollars? Sure I believe you.

      Say, did I
      tell you guys that yesterday I was in a Mexican
      resturant and I saw Saddam Hussein? He was wearing a cowboy
      hat, so I do not think anybody recognized him, but I
      did. I swear it happend, really.....ha ha ha you big
      dumb ass.

    • 1) I am not in the same boat as you because I
      have locked in profits.

      2) You are the one
      making wild allegations about UTSI so the burden of
      proof rests on you.

      3) I am no stock expert and
      I am no genious, but refer again to point #1 and
      then tell me what you have for brains.

      Good
      night!

    • Someone has to try to snuff out bullshit if there's any there. I may have been sniffing up the wrong tree.

    • Stop fighting and we'll all try to get along with you, you ain't all that bad and neither is Odin. Check out AMD tomorrow!

    • Its easy to say those things when you have 20/20
      hindsight. Who is to say I did not sell some of my position
      retard?

      However, if you remember, although this
      company is not an internet stock, it made a habbit of
      dropping 15 points per day. Once it dropped 20!

      Now
      if you are long on a stock, do you watch it every
      minute of every trading day? I said this before, myself,
      and thousnads of others included, woke up one morning
      and found UTSI down 20 points, and a loss totaling
      thousands of dollars. At that point what do you do? Do you
      panic and sell it all at a huge loss? If so, then why
      did you buyt the stock in the first place? We held
      strong. Then another 15 points. Now its getting
      ridiculous, so what do you do?

      You act like your some
      GD genious, but really, you are in the same boat I
      am. The sotck sits at 23 now, so how many points have
      you made, 4? Yeah sure you sold at 31. I thought you
      were long buddy. I saw many people post that they were
      loading up in the high 20's and low 30's. Are they
      totally stupid? After all, the stock has good earnings
      and once hit 93!

      If you take a look at all the
      other telecom companies, you will see that many are
      down, but those that sit near their IPO price are
      rare.

      To sum things up, you need to get a job as a fortune
      teller or a market analyst. You seem to know everything
      about stock trading (after the fact). How much DD di
      you do, and look at the UTSI position you have. It
      sucks just as good as mine does....

      BTW, show me
      a company where the stock has collapsed becuase of
      management's errors, where the stockholders did not call for,
      and often got managment's resignation? There are many
      things that you do not know about UTSI. I invite you to
      take a trip to China and see what's goping on. In fact
      you are a shareholder, and have the right to look at
      their books. Why don't you call me on it and proove me
      wrong.

      Have a splendid day shit for brains.

    • to the same stupidity as jpinst? To
      clarify:
      1) Buy at 48 on opening day and then
      watch it go
      to 93 and take nothing off the table.
      2) Not
      average down when it goes to it's lows.
      3) Sell off
      1/4 of position near it's lows. Then watch it as it
      nearly doubles again from there.

      4) Cry
      management is to blame because not making any
      money.

      Any takers?

    • position.

    • position this morning. It looks like 23 is a short term support.

    • is quite amusing that certain people call me
      names for buying long on UTSI on opening day. I keep
      hearing that I should have done my research and that I do
      not know how to invest. Well I have news for you, I
      have plenty of company here. That is to say, I do not
      feel alone.

    • cheer leader: take a break;
      shorts: hold your
      fire! you will see more targets.

      GSM: That is a
      clear signal: they gived up PHS in future, how UTSI can
      cope with Notel, Motorola, Nokia and Ericsson...?
      better cash your stock now, no matter what price, Hong
      Lu...

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