BB&T Corporation Message Board
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bbt-b to get called at 25 + accrued div
due to new regulatory rules. See FTB-C today. Beware...
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there's no question anymore that all 3 series wont be called early but i see no indication that it may happen sooner thn 2013 though the risk certainly exists..here's a story from bbt
"BB&T plans to buy back all of its $3.2 billion in trust- preferred stock because TruPs can’t be counted as capital under the New Dodd-Frank Act regulations starting in 2013"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-21/bb-t-will-issue-1-75-billion-in-securities-to-retire-trups.html?cmpid=yhoo
I'm not sure the cash position of fitb but if bbt doesn't have the tier 1 capital in place to replace these preferred if they are called then they may want to keep thim until 1/13
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Roulloulou,
I did check the "call date" and it is 5/15/2013 for FTB-C.
I would like to know more about HOW they can "Call" a preferred before the call date.
So this does make be worry about the BBT-B issue (Also the BBT-A, BBT-C and others)
Anybody have any additional info on this?
Thanks for the heads up!
Spyder- 3 Replies to spyder.rock
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I called BBT IR about the BBT-PB Perferred Security and they directed me to an agency which handles the security for them. I called them and they told me the securuty would be called in 2013 but that they didn't know the exact time. Do your own due diligence here is the number 804-780-3283.
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Trust Preferreds used to be counted as Tier 1 capital, even though it's actually debt.
Well not anymore with the new banks regulations.
In IPO prospectus, It says that in case of such regulatory change, the bank has the right to redeem the preferred, even before the call date.
So yes you're at risk with your BBTs.
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BBT-B is callable in August 1, 2014.
NOT Before.
LINK: http://www.quantumonline.com/search.cfm
www.quantumonline.com/search.cfm
Just put in the bbt-b symbol.
Cheers
Spyder- 2 Replies to spyder.rock
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Wrong. It can be called anytime due to a clause in the prospectus saying that if the Govt. changes the rules of the Tier 1 paper, they are free to redeem it. The rules were changed. It will be swapped for another preferred, not for $25 cash.
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selling in heavy volume today, believe what you want...
there is no difference between bbt-b and ftb-c
ftb-c was NOT callable according to your website either.
you need to look a little deeper.
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Thanks for the heads-up. I only had 2000 but I sold out quickly and the damage was slight. If you like these kinds of things, take a look at WFCL (my major holding by far). It's non-callable, yields almost 7%, and very well-secured, and is not of the same type as BBT.B.
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You might want want to check that a little closer on wfc-l. I found that is is callable in 2013. It is also non-cumulative.
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Pretty brutal stuff.
TCB-A is about to get slaughtered.
also WCO is at risk. -
bbt-b isn't callable until 8/1/2014. What's the basis of this rumor?
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