I went to a fancy university and was introduced
to some of that history and philosophy. I became
especially fond of that 18th century movement called "The
Enlightenment," and in the name of that movement I now believe I
should stand up for muckywaters rather than that
imposter who calls himself after one of the philosophers
of that era (but who does not seem to have
internalized the philosophy). Reason (one of the big ideas
then and still good enough now) has to tell us that
both tobacco and big-time pig factories are simply
bad, disgusting, an offense to rationality, and ought
to be phased out, just as back then in the 18th
century divine right, slavery, blood-letting, and etc.
were clearly due a phasing out. The argument that some
people will be economically hurt is not sufficient
reason against this. Mucky's choice of language may not
be what I would prefer, but despite that his head is
on the right track. Others may use a sweeter and
more "civilized" tongue, but, frankly, the noble
savage often speaks the greater truth, which is also
sometimes a rude truth. I'm old enough to have heard the
language of Jim Crow, I know chicanery and worse when I
hear it, and I hear that same old flimflam in the
words of Mr. Helms and the apologists of the tobacco
and pork industries both. Erase the infamy, as
Voltaire said. And while I'm at it: leaf-blowers ought to
be banned also.
I find your message to be rather enlightening and
one that probably took lots of guts to post, as I
suspect that you are a resident of North Carolina, a
beautiful place that many "like calling home".
Have
you noticed that the political "leaders" in NC are
now asking the federal government to pay for the pig
companies infrastructure to reroute all the pig poop? What
ballz these people must have. And, they want cash
now........not low-interest, taxpayer subsidised loans. This is
"corporate welfare" in its purest form.
And, by the
way, to the messenger who says this board should stick
to straight stuff about BBT, it is MHO that the
economy of NC is of great importance to the continued
good health of BBT.
Thanks, again, ROTFOL for
your great post.
Oh.........by the
way..........what have you got against leaf-blowers?
GOOD
BULL.
more than pig poop all of a sudden. :)
bud
Dear ROTFLOL,
Apparently, my posting 1838
has been misunderstood. I intended no defense of the
tobacco or pork industries. Like you, I consider them
indefensible. Moreover, I join you in supporting the phasing
out of both industries. Clearly, NC will be better
off without them, as will consumers. I was merely
affirming p4p6's understanding of the historical linkage
between the two. As Jean Jacques Rousseau is also
considered a romantic, allow me to express some sympathy for
farmers caught in the middle. In my community, "sunbelt"
jobs have softened the economic blow.
On a
personal note, I, too, remember Jim Crow. As a college
student in the 1960s, I joined the struggle against it. I
have always been proud of that. Since you cannot
possibly know what I have internalized, your ad hominem
attack on me is not very enlightened. As the dying
Goethe said, "More light!"
Yours
Respectfully,
Rousseau
You should go back .... the "enlightenment" you suffered has interferred with your ability to think ... this is a board to discuss BB&T as a subject ... not your "enlightened" idiosyncracies!