I went to a fancy university and was introduced to some of that history and philosophy. I became especially fond of that 18th century movement called "The Enlightenment," and in the name of that movement I now believe I should stand up for muckywaters rather than that imposter who calls himself after one of the philosophers of that era (but who does not seem to have internalized the philosophy). Reason (one of the big ideas then and still good enough now) has to tell us that both tobacco and big-time pig factories are simply bad, disgusting, an offense to rationality, and ought to be phased out, just as back then in the 18th century divine right, slavery, blood-letting, and etc. were clearly due a phasing out. The argument that some people will be economically hurt is not sufficient reason against this. Mucky's choice of language may not be what I would prefer, but despite that his head is on the right track. Others may use a sweeter and more "civilized" tongue, but, frankly, the noble savage often speaks the greater truth, which is also sometimes a rude truth. I'm old enough to have heard the language of Jim Crow, I know chicanery and worse when I hear it, and I hear that same old flimflam in the words of Mr. Helms and the apologists of the tobacco and pork industries both. Erase the infamy, as Voltaire said. And while I'm at it: leaf-blowers ought to be banned also.
I find your message to be rather enlightening and one that probably took lots of guts to post, as I suspect that you are a resident of North Carolina, a beautiful place that many "like calling home".
Have you noticed that the political "leaders" in NC are now asking the federal government to pay for the pig companies infrastructure to reroute all the pig poop? What ballz these people must have. And, they want cash now........not low-interest, taxpayer subsidised loans. This is "corporate welfare" in its purest form.
And, by the way, to the messenger who says this board should stick to straight stuff about BBT, it is MHO that the economy of NC is of great importance to the continued good health of BBT.
Thanks, again, ROTFOL for your great post.
Oh.........by the way..........what have you got against leaf-blowers?
Apparently, my posting 1838 has been misunderstood. I intended no defense of the tobacco or pork industries. Like you, I consider them indefensible. Moreover, I join you in supporting the phasing out of both industries. Clearly, NC will be better off without them, as will consumers. I was merely affirming p4p6's understanding of the historical linkage between the two. As Jean Jacques Rousseau is also considered a romantic, allow me to express some sympathy for farmers caught in the middle. In my community, "sunbelt" jobs have softened the economic blow.
On a personal note, I, too, remember Jim Crow. As a college student in the 1960s, I joined the struggle against it. I have always been proud of that. Since you cannot possibly know what I have internalized, your ad hominem attack on me is not very enlightened. As the dying Goethe said, "More light!"