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  • signaturepiece signaturepiece Jun 10, 2003 11:04 AM Flag

    Big lie will it affect the market?

    The Big lie about Iraq will hurt confidence in the leadership of this administration. If they were willing to lie and get our men and women killed what else are they lying about.
    Who will trust them what government will trust them. Will the families of the dead sue the government.

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    • The Big lie about Iraq will hurt confidence in the leadership of this administration. If they were willing to lie and get our men and women killed what else are they lying about.
      Who will trust them what government will trust them. Will the families of the dead sue the government.

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      • >Who will trust them what government will trust them. Will the families of the dead sue the government<

        You are very young, aren't you?

        Try the FDR administration in WWII over Pearl Harbor. Or IKE, JFK and Johnson on Viet Nam. Even further back..try the Spanish-American War in 1898. Or the Mexican War of 1846.

        There are times and circumstances within our nations history that our leaders have either made mistakes or even mislead the people of this country.

        Was it right that FDR and his advisors knew that we could be attacked at Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. And did not properly defend against that threat. NO, of course not. However, was it right that this country dedicated its treasury and its people to defeat facsism. Absolutley!

        Was it right that Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson believed that the threat of Communisum was great enough to spend our nations treasury and it young people to defeat this threat. Yes, Absolutely.

        Why?

        Because, the threat was real and was articulated, in no uncertain terms, by the other side, i.e. the Soviet Union.
        Were we, the People, and those administrations overly concerned about these threats. You Bet!

        In hindsight, the threats to our nation and other western nations was not as great as preceived in regards to the Soviet threat.

        The wars of the 19th century are mostly jingonistic. It was a nation building process. Though from a 21st Century perspective, seem barbaric. Again, it was the thought, at the time, the Right Thing to Do.

        History teaches all of us that not everything that we believed in the past is necessarily true in the present. And that the problems of the present will be viewed differently in the future.

        Just my thoughts on this....And bash all you want. I will not post again for awhile. And can we Please get back to IBM stock issues for a change.

        A Nam Combat Vet '69-'70, son of a WWII Combat Vet '41- '45

      • So you continue to repost the same drivel.

        Get a clue, no one here cares about your horseshit opinion.

        Clinton lover.

    • Oh, that's funny.

      Remind me to laugh next time too, OK?

    • "Take some English and grammar lessons please."
      You must be referring to Bush, I wish he would too.

    • Fuck you and your bullshit rhetoric. I suppose you think the embassy bombings during Clinton's terms were done by Republicans too? And what does pussy boy do? Tell the terrorists to "stop it, you bullies" and then sends a bunch of cruise missiles and hits nothing. What a loser.

      Clinton was more responsible for 9/11 than anyone else, he led the terrorists to believe there would be no repercussions from what they did since he did nothing. Thank God for Bush, at least he knew how to respond.

      And take some English and grammar lessons - please.

      Asshole.

    • The republicans made Bin Laden and Clinton should have guessed 5 years ahead what GW did
      not understand the day it happened when he was hiding from Bin Laden.

    • If they were willing to lie and get our men and women killed what else are they lying about? !!!!!.......fuck the market!!!I'm concerned about a govt THAT DOES WHAT IT WANTS AND DISREGARDS IT'S CITIZENS HEALTH AND WELFARE!!!!!!OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN IN DEEP TROUBLE FOR SOME TIME!!FROM THE NOW DEAD AT THE A BOMB TESTING SITES TO VIETNAM TO AGENT ORANGE TO PROJECT BLUEBOOK......we the people are "NOT ON A NEED TO KNOW BASIS" and the fubar press is our only hope for knowing.......we are in the dooo-doo!!!

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      • Screw you, dipshit. You've never heard of something called national security? It'd scare little pussies like you to no end if you really knew how things worked. If our military and government waited until they got public opinion on our side, we'd be speaking German, Japanese or Arabic by now.

        I, for one, applaud our govt doing what it must to keep us safe. And about our military losses - yes, sad, but ask the soldiers, they knew or should have known they could be asked to give up their lives for this country, and they still signed up.

        I doubt you would, you just think everyone can live in peace and go around hugging each other.

        Whiny ass little puke liberal.

      • Your post makes you sound like a follower of Karl Marx and Lenin. Are you?

      • Perhaps you should crawl back under your bed with the rest of the scared little liberal girly-men.

        Wake up, nitwit. Despite "citizens" like you, this still the best place on the planet to live.

        FIND A BETTER COUNTRY!

    • Gee, the government lies to us in order to further their cause. Bet this has never before been done in the history of the US.

      Grow up, junior. The people in power don't always need to get public opinion on their side to do what they know is right.

      And they sure as hell don't care about whiny ass liberals like you when it comes time to
      get tough, because all you do is start whining that we should establish dialogue, etc.

      Sometimes force is the only option.

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      • "Gee, the government lies to us in order to further their cause. Bet this has never before been done in the history of the US.

        Grow up, junior. The people in power don't always need to get public opinion on their side to do what they know is right.

        And they sure as hell don't care about whiny ass liberals like you when it comes time to
        get tough, because all you do is start whining that we should establish dialogue, etc.
        Sometimes force is the only option. "

        This "whiny ass liberals" has served his time in Vietnam and done his duty to his country. He believes that his government is responsible to do their part.
        It is the self absorbed, arrogant, self righteous, poppas ass that the government does not need to hear from. Those who feel that the world owes them something for simply being. You know like George Bush.

      • Again you are in a peesing contatest. Liberals or Rednecks all lie because they are just politicians.
        When you call some one liberal you are assuming your self Redneck! or Bush Republican Guards!

      • Only when Clinton does not disclose his privat
        life in front of the public then he is a liar.
        This makes many things clear.

 
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