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  • bobmarlin001 bobmarlin001 Jun 25, 2003 4:02 PM Flag

    Why is this POS going down today?

    Why is this POS going down today?

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    • Go an re-read my post, I didn't say it. I was referring to another post.

    • You are absolutely correct and maybe it's just my bad thinking but don't you see this as a threat to the US economy if most of or support is outside the country? It just seems to me that IT runs the world and we are giving up control to people who would just as soon nuke us if they could?

    • A scary point to consider.
      Time for you developers and such to move into project management - CSC really needs to do that better.

    • I would have to agree with you.
      While I may not agree with some of CSC's strategic decisions - they are simply business decisions that management thinks will improve the company's bottom line. The real problem from what I have seen is EXECUTION. I have never seen such poor management skills throughout a company. I'm guessing reasons for this is the fragmentation of a company culture, absolutely NO management mentoring, and constant (integration) challenges introduced by CSC's on-going acquisitions.
      Right now, CSC is just a contracting chop-shop.

    • You say that only 2% of CSC jobs are 3rd World Labor. Some factors to consider: No gov't contracts can be offshored which represents a large portion of corp revenues. I can tell that wherever contracts allow it, offshoring is occurring. On my account 30% of all development jobs are now offshored. (That's 200+ jobs) In case you missed this little tidbit CSC is establishing 4-5 more centers in India over the next year. They expect to have over 2000 employees by EOY '04. Only a question of time until all development is performed in India, Ireland, Phillipines, etc. P.S. When it comes to offshoring the "Giant" is waking up.....China! Put China and India together, the 2 most populous nations in the world and you have unlimited IT resources at your disposal for an avg annual salary of $12.5K.

    • I see it here daily... preach on brother.
      Tell them how it is.

    • "..People are being laid off daily in GIS, TMG and Consulting. GIS is getting hit very hard because of the outsourcing. We have had 20 year veterans RIFd in the past week...".

      I have heard this on the board many times, but have never witnessed it where I work. I don't doubt you and I'm glad I don't work where you are talking about. Good luck.

    • >>Funny how I haven't heard all those RIF >>rumors for quite a while on this board. >>Things must have slowed down.

      Unfortunately things have not. People are being laid off daily in GIS, TMG and Consulting. GIS is getting hit very hard because of the outsourcing. We have had 20 year veterans RIFd in the past week.

      Whatever you think about outsourcing,CSC or the discussions on this board, doesn't change the facts. People are loosing their jobs on a daily basis. And poor management and greed are a large part of the reason.

    • As someone else stated, the "Third World" labor is only around 2% of all of CSC's jobs. And the majority of these jobs are body-shop type work that most of you wouldn't want to do. Funny how I haven't heard all those RIF rumors for quite a while on this board. Things must have slowed down.

    • Yes, I concur, and anyone still inside CSC can clearly see that they will indeed "..ruin as many careers as it take to make the numbers.."

      They could have chosen to go in a totally different direction: offering high-end solutions designed, written, and supported by only the best talent available. Instead they chose the lowest-common-denominator generic system maintenance market. When that proved to be a money-loser, they went even lower using cheap Third-World labor.

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