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  • ethanol_ecologist ethanol_ecologist Feb 20, 2009 12:29 PM Flag

    Cellulosic ethanol is nearer than you think?

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    • Ah yes this is good news ...

      >>>"A few companies have opened pilot plants to make cellulosic but no
      commercial amounts of the fuel are being made. The industry risks failing the
      U.S. Renewable Fuels Standard, which requires the blending of 100 million
      gallons of cellulosic into the country's gasoline pool next year."<<<

      This is an understatment, currently they are only producing 3M gallons a year.

      Hey, I thought you were an ecologist, how do you feel about all the sulphuric acid needed for cellulosic ethanol?

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      • Breakdown of hemicellulose to smaller fibers requires a chemical process involving enzymes and other techniques. Not sure what your concern is. The paper manufacturing industry has long used a similar process called "Kraft", which since the 70's has been largely emissions free.

        Other ecological issues you have brought up in the past such as the kill zone in the gulf, existed long before corn was ever used for ethanol. In fact, there are well established research programs and Ag exstension efforts underway to promote best practices to mitigate nitrogen runoff.

        These programs include the planting of buffer strips along drainage paths. Coincidentilly, there is currently a pilot program at Iowa State, along these lines, for planting switchgrass and fast growing trees managed in coppice plantations for biomass production, that will aid in the switchover to cellulosic ethanol. Pretty cool huh?

        Coppice is great because it leaves the roots intact, allowing the trees to spring back from stump sprouts and roots, therefore boosting production, while retaining the buffer zone, with little disturbance to the land and thus minimal impact to streams. And yes, I am an ecologist who just happened to do a major bit of research on coppice for biomass production during the energy crisis of the seventies, under a DOE grant.

        Spend a little time researching these issues, and read a journal once in awhile, and you will be able to speak more intelligently about the issues.


      • no where near the ecological disaster that your oil sands companies are responsible for... oil slut.

    • You get a 5 star rating edna

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