Ray is in his won world and he is an obvious basher but you guys who keep pumping this stock are rediculous. This stock had its day and it is down and going down. Look at the facts, bad earnings, reverse stock-split, depressed industry, high margins and continue delution of the stock. Hey I like this stock at one time but the profit margins are just not there. The goverment tried to get behind the Ethanol companies with the tax breaks but those days are gone. Get out while you still have a few pennies left.