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  • juicyjuice10001 juicyjuice10001 Feb 20, 2013 9:06 PM Flag

    Goldman admits

    being in negotiations while JPM is listening in. JPM is being exposed by GS. There will be no hearing on the naked shorting . GS has already admitted of naked shorting to help JPM.The baldy Paulson gave the signal to GS, his former boss without fear to help JPM. Naked shorting was the only way to steal WAMU. TPG was the number one to short WAMU.

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    • Goldman announces sale of its reinsurance business to unknown investors on the same day it had a date with the court which could have exposed the corrupt foundation of GS. Why would a small Texas legal firm try to take legal action against the largest firm doing the work for god in a kangaroo court which has denied the justice to little folks and is known to be in bed with thieves? Does this take JPM and FDIC off the hook and those who are asking for return of goods may have incentive to release all the corrupt firms acting in concert?

    • FTD is illegal ie FAILURE TO DELIVER.Our experts must have realized that there were innumerable FTDs by GS on WAMU.

      • 1 Reply to newflowlogic
      • Inumerable?To be exact more around 1.08B shares.I hope that nummer is enough and lets be clear that this is what is left after the majority of the NSS got filled on the sale after the seizure took place and the institutionals and big holders sold so you can imagine what someone on the thorough discovery can bring up from the FINRA or other Known places n those Highly manipulative trades.They brought the Share price in over a year time from the 35$ to the 2$ per shares in the days before the seizure.

    • I have tried to explain to you in the past the NAKED SHORTING is absolutely LEGAL.. In fact, 90(+) % of all shorting is "naked"...ie) the shorter does not already own the stock being shorted. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Not illegal, done every day, no legal issue. Got it yet? The rest of your post is what could be kindly called misinformed. Otherwise, it would be called lying.

      • 3 Replies to ir1engineer
      • Definition of naked short selling that I refer to and as I understand it:

        "Naked short selling involves trading in shares that an investor doesn't own, doesn't borrow and doesn't deliver. The phantom stock trades flood the market with what appear to be shares available for sale, and they drive down the stock price."

        What is defined above is illegal. If what is defined above is what Goldman Sachs did then they committed a crime.

      • Angryneer, naked shorting with insider knowledge is not legal. Furthermore, GS cannot underwrite the loans to WAMU and naked short at the same time. It's as legal as gay people like angryengineer can marry his male roommate.

      • Jezus Christ this Human is really cloned with the Reptiles and have a low IQ to not comprehend the word Illegal and Criminal.Hey Ingy Go and Fok Your self better than posting here your idiotic statements.But probablly you do not comperehend the nature of the word Short.Even if you short legally you must find first the shares to short and than after you can short for the same amount of shares you have got the allowance to short and this is the legal.The Illgal part is that You short a Stock without the shares to short.I am giving to you a example.What would the GS do if I sell phantom shares that Do not exist?Shares that I Promiss to bring but didn't provide.So in this case I Can fload the market with lets say two billion shares(Promissed to be delivered to te buyers but never deliverd)and kill the stock price.
        This Person must be wanted from the FBI for being in the most wanted criminal if he say what he say above.Lets see who he for the real life is and Bring it to the atention of the FBI and send him to Jail.

    • "Goldman admits being in negotiations while JPM is listening in. JPM is being exposed by GS. There will be no hearing on the naked shorting. GS has already admitted of naked shorting to help JPM".

      These are 4 strong statements on your part that would be of extremely relevance for WAMU shareholders,if you have access to some kind of article or PR relating to these, please share with us,if these statements are assumptions on your part,please specify so.It is Ok to make assumptions, and, since what your saying fit extremely well in the scheme of events and "could" very well be,IMO,true,it would be better if you post the source of your info,if any. T.Y. , and good luck to all WAMU shareholders.

      • 1 Reply to amd4001967
      • Everything that Juicy said is true.Didn't we know that GS shorted to death WAMU Prior the seizure?Didn't we know that Mike Stathis a Known Freedom ans Justice fighter got punished and even FBI Showed to his door for he Protested to the SEC For the letting and making a small voice about the over 1B shares NSS after the seizure took place on the WAMU.He brought all the facts and made a Dossier ad send that to the FBI.So the NSS of the GS is true.So what Juicy said till now is true.
        If the GS go in a Just normal trial we all know that the relases aren't worth anymore as this is criminal activity and normal court out of the BK court can't let this fall on the flat ground and have to make Incrimination on the parties Involved.Aren't we the sareholders the victims of this Proces of NSS for to bring the price from the 35$-2$ on the recognised NSS(failed to deliver shares)for over the Billion on our side?How much did they made the hedgies and the GS?For sure over the 10B$.Do we have proves?YES.If the discovery is aproved I bet we can incriminat back the JPM and some other evil oficials conected as Bair or Paulson.So I say do not show mercy but go for the throat and make us rich.

    • How does this help us now and will it lead to any retribution for us common saps?

      oh I see.

    • 07/15/08--SEC Enhances Investor Protections Against Naked Short Selling



      That makes it sound like they were doing their job doesn’t it? Unfortunately it was well known by hedge funds and other “shorters” that the naked short selling ban was not enforced. Naked short selling of Washington Mutual continued to damage Washington Mutual severely and although it is illegal, the SEC did nothing to stop it.

      WaMu was not put on the list of banks that were not to be shorted. WaMu CEO Killinger specifically asked for WaMu to be added to the list but was refused. The Short ban notice announcement on 15 July by the SEC was to be effective the 21st. On July 17, Killinger, the CEO, sent a FAX transmittal, requesting to be added to the “no short” list and was refused. It is interesting to note the fax, which was received on the 17th was logged in as received 8:40pm on the 22nd by the "Chairman's Correspondence Unit".

 
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