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Akamai Technologies, Inc. Message Board

  • thtp2000 thtp2000 Nov 20, 2003 9:04 AM Flag

    Short this stock, you will make big $$$

    next week. I shorted at 11.70 and 11.55 and still hold all my shares.

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    • vman....

      no prob...

      what i was asking...was what would the effect be if someone took down 30-50% of the akam network with a serious ddos attack on the servers...

      up until 6-8 months i wouldn't have thought it possible... but after realizing how many broadband connected systems are up/running... which implies a reasonable upstream bandwidth... and realizing that it's possible to "hijack" 5000-10000 systems...

      it's scary...

      you see the basic issue is that there are too many systems conneccted to the internet by the casual user that are not anywhere close to being protected ina reasonable fashion....

      as an aside.. this is an issue that at some point will have to be addressed... by the ISPs or someone.. if your machine is used in an attack.. and you didn't have it protected.. you get nailed a penalty...

      peace...

    • sorry my fault - i misread your original statement, which I thought said "what if somebody tried to use AKAMs server to conduct a ddos.

    • vman...

      not sure i understood what you are trying to say.... the reason akam's DNS service is so formidible against DDOS attacks is that the DNS resoultion is essentially spread out among 100's of servers... whereas a normal company may have a handful... plus.. if i recall.. the actual servers that are used are actually "behind" the akam wall so to speak...

      it's the inability to "get" to the DNS servers that protects the ability for the customer's site to keep functioning...

      to quote:
      "...Akamai provides an internet-wide caching system, which can act as a symmetric defence to distributed denial of service attacks. Just as a denial of service attack funnels traffic from many different points to a single destination, Akamai's DNS servers multiplex requests for a specific hostname to the nearest point to each attacking machine in its global caching system, diminishing the effect of the attack by dividing the inbound requests amongst its many servers, and limiting the amount of DDoS traffic by localising the distance between attacker and target. Akamai presents a more challenging target for a DDoS than any single network, and would seem to be the best practical step where a distributed denial of service is directed at a hostname that the target organisation cannot reasonably take offline..." ( http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/17/wwwmicrosoftcom_runs_linux_up_to_a_
      point_.html
      )

      given the idiots who craft attacks, it actually provides a great deal of protection....

      peace...

    • okay. anyways, why do you think that akams network can be used any more effectively than anyone else's network? There are very many distributed networks out there and in fact anyone who really wanted to do an effective ddos would be more likely to target computers and servers from seperate networks so as to maximize the routes of attack and minimize the risk of exposure during setup? Y/N Maybe?

    • regarding the ddos....

      no scare... simply an honest question... not sure what your background is... but i've been doing tech for 20 years... so to me.. this was a simple question to the other tech guys who are here...

      no more..no less...

    • as i remember NOBODY ever asked how much or whaqt they were using except you - the original post simply stated that a certain gropu of businesses incl. Google are AKAM customers.

      What about the BS scare about DDOS?

    • re..DNS

      my overall question had to do more with the pricing of the DNS services as opposed to the CDN services.... I thought that the DNS services were priced less than the CDN services.. but i have no idea what the bundling strategy is now...

      the original issue was that google was using akam.. i said that it might not be that much if they were simply using the DNS services... the rest of the thread was pretty useless...

      peace..

    • DNS is more per 95th percentile MB. Most peoples DNS traffic is less then thier cacheable traffic so the over cost is often less. This would be the case for my company. Google is s bit differant as they have less static traffic. Either way Google would be a profitable client.

    • yes you did. my bad. I agree google is using akamai.

    • Trust me the URL links are very small stuff and wouldn't be very muck look up. The DNS might be smaller, but for Google any traffic DNS or whatever would still be a large volume.

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