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  • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Dec 1, 2008 3:23 PM Flag

    (Market related) New twist on citizenship issue

    PE, I'm replying to the second part of your 30-Nov-08 02:25 PM post "Re: DOW just went green" (197740) at

    http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&bn=700&tid=195265&mid=197740

    http://
    messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z
    %29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&bn=700&tid=
    195265&mid=197740

    >>That there will be plenty of evidence [about Obama's identity coming out eventually]. The only important thing is whether he is a natural born citizen. That requires someone to define natural born citizen (to include or exclude children born outside the country to Americans) and a determination that he is a natural born citizen. Given John McCain was born outside the country and was declared eligible to be president, I suspect Obama will be too. But the question should be addressed, not swept under the rug.<<

    Absolutely. If swept under the rug chaos will reign. Fortunately the difference in McCain's favor was that both his parents were American. Obama's father was a citizen of a foreign country. Then his mother's residency in Indonesia muddies Obama's citizenship further.

    One of my Alice in Wonderland sources linked (when it was probably less than a couple days on the Web) to something that might be a stretch, but I'll detail it anyway. If it should turn out to in fact have some sort of linkage to Obama, it would probably be considered circumstantial, or indirect, evidence. Nothing in this appears to be direct evidence, but I don't know who associates with whom.

    I had thought this originated at Patriot Brigade Radio, but when I went back to the very same URL, PBR's radio appeared, instead, with its sound emitting, so maybe someone attacked the post? However, it has spread quickly (including to Free Republic), and I finally tracked it down to its origin at 'Country First'.  I've split the URLs — note two (2) splits in the second Kirkland URL — to preserve their integrity.

    <
    Been doing some digging and found this....

    by creativeogre on Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:31 am

    While digging my way through the Internet last night, I came across the following paper, written by SARAH P. HERLIHY. It's title

    AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE

    caught my eye, and had to read it...

    http:// lawreview.kentlaw.edu/articles/81-1/Herlihy.pdf

    I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government?
    So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland & Ellis LLP http://www.kirkland.com

    Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter [smiley here]. Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that
    Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

    http://www. kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm ?contentID=220&itemID=7845 (towards bottom of the page)

    In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the " Illinois Venture Capital Association's lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital community" presented by Sen. Barack Obama

    So it sure looks like Obama's people have looked into the matter of "Natural born" as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of :

    "If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!"

    Here is the introduction to the paper... It looks like a road map for Obama's defense lawyers...And a precursor to a Socialist world.

    . . .
    >

    http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=617

    http://
    countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/
    viewtopic.php?f=11&t=617

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    • >> . . . maybe traveling to that [Yahoo news] page is a natural for stockholders?<<

      I didn't look at it until I saw that stat putting them at number 1. But it is good and it's the only news page I've seen that presents your local news compiled from news sites closest to your location. That might be its secret.

      >> . . AP does say it's the second pay-to-play investigation "touching" the Untouchable's transition to the presidency.<<

      Two scandals since the election. It's turning into a muddy slog to the inauguration.

      >>Have you read anything elsewhere about this [Richardson thing]?<<

      No, haven't been that interested. I did notice Richardson shaved off his Fu Manchu . . . probably wants to show a kinder, gentler face to the investigaters.

    • >>I'd bet Drudge gets one of the highest hit rates on the internet, and I saw (surprising) stats the other day that had Yahoo news as the top rated news page (it is pretty good). Of course all those pages just link to MSM articles. Opinion blogs are probably pretty far down the hit list.<<

      I agree with you about Drudge, so I was very surprised last night to find some of the people hadn't even heard of Drudge! I'm surprised Yahoo news was the top rated one, but in thinking it over, maybe it's because much Yahoo news is linked to stocks? But you said "the top rated news page" and that page isn't stocks. Though on third thought, maybe traveling to that page is a natural for stockholders?

      Also, remember back when the world was avidly following the Beijing Olympics? SAI cited statistics showing Yahoo's Olympics page as one of, if not the, top rated Olympics news pages. It might have been surpassed by only NBC's Olympics site. AOL might have been the third-place Olympics news source.

      >>Don't count on it. The MSM will keep it a stimulus package even though it is just a long list of projects that look exactly the way earmarks look.<<

      Yuck. Drudge is saying Obama is planning a major speech re his "stimulus package," story developing.

      I wonder if the MSM is likewise being gentle with the news that NM's governor Richardson is abdicating his nomination (by Obama) to be commerce secretary. Richardson is claiming babe-in-the-woods innocence, but, while claiming Obama "has remained above the fray in both the case of arrested Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and the New Mexico case" (note the subtlety, not "Richardson's case"), AP does say it's the second pay-to-play investigation "touching" the Untouchable's transition to the presidency.

      <A federal grand jury is investigating how a California company that contributed to Richardson's political activities won a New Mexico transportation contract worth more than $1 million. Richardson said in a statement issued by the Obama transition office that the investigation could take weeks or months but expressed confidence it will show he and his administration acted properly.>

      http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95GHJPO0&show_article=1

      http://www.
      breitbart.com/article.php?id=
      D95GHJPO0&show_article=1

      Have you read anything elsewhere about this?

      And remember Richardson is the one who said in a speech, in Spanish, that Obama is an "immigrant"?

    • >> . . . Would you say that attests to the pajamas media being read somewhat on a par with the mainstream media? Would you venture to guess which of the two media is more widely read on the 'Net?<<

      I'd bet Drudge gets one of the highest hit rates on the internet, and I saw (surprising) stats the other day that had Yahoo news as the top rated news page (it is pretty good). Of course all those pages just link to MSM articles. Opinion blogs are probably pretty far down the hit list.

      >> . . . Would he want any 'offended' (because he converted from Islam) Muslims to associate his name with pork? I realize it sounds farfetched, but what if such a strategy caught on?<<

      Don't count on it. The MSM will keep it a stimulus package even though it is just a long list of projects that look exactly the way earmarks look.

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Jan 3, 2009 10:13 AM Flag

      >>January is off to a good start. A good Janary is supposed to hold up through the whole year.<<

      That's a New Year tradition I don't remember hearing before. I like it! I also just checked to see if the tradition was continuing today and was surprised to see ETFC up double digits again, now two days in succession. And then I noticed the dates for the stock prices . . .

    • >>Well they can use the business. They might be worth looking at again once the economy starts picking up.<<

      Internap has been surviving the economy's dive, and today INAP closed up 6.80%, a bigger gain than AAPL's 6.33% and NUAN's (which has seemed a proxy for AAPL) 6.37%, a bigger gain than all the techs in my Yahoo list.

      Also, Power Line has been well known since at least the famed detective work of the pajamas media when they scrutinously examined the forged Air National Guard records that Dan Rather purported to be Bush's. It's interesting that Power Line can afford a CDN. Would you say that attests to the pajamas media being read somewhat on a par with the mainstream media? Would you venture to guess which of the two media is more widely read on the 'Net?

      >> I doubt it. They must have managed to get the Vitalstream acquisition working. It damn near killed them.<<

      One has to hand it to James DeBlasio; he's been a very determined CEO. Remember how determined he was (and likely still is) to outperform Akamai?

      >>Yes, saw that [Obama's Dem allies want to have the bill ready for him to sign on the 20th]. They're really anxious to get to spending before the market turns up and makes it look like just more pork barrel spending . . . and there's so much good pork to get out there in the name of saving the country and the planet.<<

      Hmmm! Maybe an effective strategy against Obama's intentions to spend taxpayers' $$ and distribute Americans' wealth would be to _accentuate_ the pork element of his trillion $ plan, to repeatedly associate his name with pee-o-ar-kay pork? I've read numerous articles, blogs, and other sources about his Muslim childhood, origins, loyalties; even his Indonesian school registration states he was Muslim then. Some of those commenters think he is an eventual target of the 'religion' he cast off. He has been super-vigilant re the least denigrating remarks about him. Would he want any 'offended' (because he converted from Islam) Muslims to associate his name with pork? I realize it sounds farfetched, but what if such a strategy caught on?

    • >>AKAM and LLNW are both up more than 4% while LVLT is up only 0.07%. Not much optimism for Level 3.<<

      January is off to a good start. A good Janary is supposed to hold up through the whole year.

    • >> . . . it looks like Internap is collecting Power Line's coins.<<

      Well they can use the business. They might be worth looking at again once the economy starts picking up.

      >>Might Internap be sliding back into Akamai's possession?<<

      I doubt it. They must have managed to get the Vitalstream acquisition working. It damn near killed them.

      >> . . . I wonder if the brick 'n' mortar stores needed to hire as many as they did in carefree years.<<

      No, but they would have hired more than before the holiday season.

      >> . . . BTW, have you read that Obama's Dem allies want to have that bill ready for him to sign on the 20th?<<

      Yes, saw that. They're really anxious to get to spending before the market turns up and makes it look like just more pork barrel spending . . . and there's so much good pork to get out there in the name of saving the country and the planet.

    • >>I think it [ballot fixing] is in Washington and Minnesota, and probably everywhere else.<<

      I wonder how far back it dates in this country, whether it occurred to any noticeable extent in prior decades.

      The market is looking good today, unfortunately so is energy. ANR (the coal stock) is up 12.97% and just a little while ago it was up 11.xx% Look at the flying leap it took this morning.

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ANR&t=5d&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=&a=vm,r14,m26-12-9&c=

      http://
      finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ANR&t=5d&l=
      off&z=l&q=c&p=&a=vm,r14,m26-12-9&c=

      And investors don't seem to be worrying about Steve Jobs.

      AKAM and LLNW are both up more than 4% while LVLT is up only 0.07%. Not much optimism for Level 3.

    • Take a break!!! A-HOLE.

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Jan 2, 2009 10:04 AM Flag

      >>The mention of many distributed servers. True that could be other CDNs but it is what Akamai is known for.<<

      When I tried clicking on one of the videos, no information accompanied it. But Google found a 30 December Power Line article that said:

      <UPDATE: These videos may be temporarily unavailable as we move them to a robust CDN (a "content delivery network"), which will place them on a large network of multiple servers worldwide. Do stand by. They should be working in short order.>

      http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/12/022434.php

      http://www.
      powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/12/022434.php

      And I thought you must be right because what other CDN besides Akamai has "a large network of multiple servers worldwide"?

      Then, when I copied the full text out of a little box containing some code that this older Power Line article provided for embedding the videos on one's own site, I noticed it included "cdn.powerlineblog.com". When I entered that in Network Utility's 'Lookup' box, the CNAME was shown to be http.cdnlayer.com , and then Netcraft said the netblock owner is Vitalstream, which sounded familiar. A click on 'Vitalstream' shows it's owned by Internap, and you said Internap used to be a reseller of Akamai services. But now that Internap has gone independent of Akamai, it looks like Internap is collecting Power Line's coins.

      Which raises another thought. INAP closed the year at $2.50. It's chart is similar to AKAM's throughout most of the year, but in December AKAM jumped while INAP rose only a little.

      http://tinyurl.com/9q9u9t

      http://
      finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=1y&s
      =AKAM&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=INAP

      Might Internap be sliding back into Akamai's possession?

      >>Yes though many were quick to point out it could just be a Christmas effect.<<

      That's logical, but if there were fewer shoppers, especially if more people did their shopping online, I wonder if the brick 'n' mortar stores needed to hire as many as they did in carefree years.

      >>I've heard the price of gas (i.e. the demand) is likely to continue on down (i.e. the recession will get deeper).<<

      Must be the outlook isn't so encouraging this morning. Crude futures are down again. And a blurb on MarketWatch says "Manufacturing activity in the euro zone falls for a fourth consecutive month in December to reach the gauge's lowest-ever reading."

      >>I don't know what to think. A lot of people are calling for a monstrous Obama rally (e.g. as soon as the messiah takes office the clouds will part, the sun will shine, the waters recede, and all the forest creatures will come out and sing and dance) . . . we will be saved. But somehow I don't see how blowing a trillion dollars on the mother of all earmarks is going to save us. In fact I'm afraid exactly the opposite will happen, we will get either a deflationary depression (if people remain afraid) or a massive inflation in a non grow economy with high interest rates, that is stagflation a la Jimmy Carter. I don't see a return to health and prosperity. Here's hoping I am wrong.<<

      LLOL Even if you're wrong, you could always hire out to Disney as director of its forest creature scenes. But I don't believe you're wrong. The messiah's economic 'plan' is a nightmare. Hasn't Paulson & Co. already wiped out the taxpayers? And get this . . . Drudge asks, in italics, "Less than week to read the $1 trillion bill before voting?" For Paulson's monstrous bailout, they were allowed only a FEW HOURS to read that bill. That shows you what a railroading job Paulson's bailout was. The majestic edifaces concealing our lawmakers need to be fumigated with septuple strength DDT. BTW, have you read that Obama's Dem allies want to have that bill ready for him to sign on the 20th?

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