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  • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Jul 5, 2009 5:57 AM Flag

    The entrapping jobless plunge (1)

    It's past time to get disentangled from this thread, so I'm starting a new one. I'm replying to your 4:25 PM post "Re: SAGAN: The dollars follow the eyeball" (203522) at

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    >>No, I think it was as high as 25% (or thereabout) at times during the great depression. But we're going over 10% and maybe a lot more depending on what passes in congress.<<

    Michigan's unemployment rate was 14.1% in May. Of course the automakers contributed to that. South Carolina's rose from 11.4% in April to 12.1% in May. The unemployment rate in California is 11.5%. Texas, whose economy has been better than that of the other states, is at 7.1%. Florida's unemployment rate has already hit 10.2% and New York's is at 8.2%. All of those numbers are for May. What must they bode for June's numbers?!

    >>No, missed that, but if he can't see the brick wall the economy is racing towards he'd be an idiot, and Powell is no idiot.<<

    It was during an interview with CNN's "State of the Union." Powell's comments surprised me, and I suspect a lot of people, because he had come out so strongly for Obama before the election. Those were advance quotes, and CNN plans to air the interview today, Sunday, so you'll be able to hear everything Powell says.

    Speaking of Sunday, I'm disoriented. After I posted my previous post, I saw that it's Sunday. Not only was this year's 4th of July picnic held at a different location (far from the lake) than in the past umpteen years, it was a Saturday picnic. Most of the picnics, BBQs, etc. in all those same years have been on a Sunday. So now I'm feeling like I just gained a day.

    >>Up is bad (inflation) and down is bad (deflation) . . . it would be good if it [crude] just stuck to $60.<<

    Unfortunately, traders won't allow that. Unless they all reform. Have you ever met a reformed hedge fund?

    Oh, back to unemployment, I just remembered another Rush Limbaugh transcript I read yesterday and the chart he was talking about. Have you seen this chart (the big version, no eye strain)?

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    • >> . . . Seriously, how many generations will still be paying for Obama's plundering of taxpayers?<<

      Hopefully they'll lose congress or the senate before too long and the spending will be stopped before it actually gets to $9 trillion.

      >>I trust you noticed that the "senior administration official" and our friends the MSM refrained from announcing that Obama had hiked his 10-year deficit from $7.108 trillion to $9 trillion until after Obama was safely out of Dodge.<<

      What's another $2 trillion to the future taxpayers . . . they won't have the first $7 trillion.

    • >> . . . Did you see that the case number is expected to virtually explode? . . .<<

      Yes, kids go back to school tomorrow here . . . that'll spread it.

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Aug 23, 2009 2:57 AM Flag

      >>Speaking of Flu's...remember the Hong Kong Flu of 1980/81...almost got my wife and I...so weak you couldn't get out of bed...and your hair actually hurt when you pressed it against a pillow...I had almost forgotten about that God awful experience till I read your post...<<

      I remember the Hong Kong flu being talked about, but I didn't get it. Your and your wife's experience sounds horrific. I think I've had a generic flu a couple or few times, but I don't remember any of them having a particular name. One time I had to deliver some items to several students in a dormitory where many of them were in bed with the flu, and I think that was in the early '80s, but I didn't catch that flu. I'd been taking vitamins C and E regulary, so have always thought that may have been what fortified me. I don't know that for sure, but with the approaching threat I'm repeating that trial!

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Aug 23, 2009 1:49 AM Flag

      >>You and I know $9 trillion is an economy busting burden but to most people anything higher than a million is a lot of money and they don't really distinguish a million, a billion, or a trillion. Hell, some people can't distinguish between $1000, $10,000, and $100,000.<<

      How should I write a trillion? :-) Seriously, how many generations will still be paying for Obama's plundering of taxpayers?

      >>Probably more like buffaloed as would be anyone not totally immersed in banking and finance. Hey we need a trillion to save the Republic or it dies next week. Give it to me with no strings, we can't wait or you'll go down as the last US president . . . well, OK but don't waste it. Don't worry, my friends and I know just what to do.<<

      That's just about how I envisioned Paulson's attack on Bush.

      I trust you noticed that the "senior administration official" and our friends the MSM refrained from announcing that Obama had hiked his 10-year deficit from $7.108 trillion to $9 trillion until after Obama was safely out of Dodge.

    • Speaking of Flu's...remember the Hong Kong Flu of 1980/81...almost got my wife and I...so weak you couldn't get out of bed...and your hair actually hurt when you pressed it against a pillow...I had almost forgotten about that God awful experience till I read your post...

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Aug 22, 2009 2:56 PM Flag

      >>Yes, and I just rememberd Gerald Ford was president when I got that shot, so that pretty well nails down the time frame to 1975-77. Not many other reasons why I'd get or take a free shot then.<<

      Reasons for a vaccination, free or high cost, don't come any more serious than fear of, or just the possibility of, another Spanish flu pandemic. And now a similar pandemic looms. Did you see that the case number is expected to virtually explode? The WHO predicts cases will double every three to four days for several months, and even then the virus will linger!!! Will ANYone not contract it??

      Obamacare shouldn't be in effect by this winter already. Will the shots still be restricted to specific groups? I wish I knew which will be the bigger risk, the flu or the inadequately tested vaccine that might turn out to be like the one in 1976.

    • >> . . . How sure are you that Obama will still be around to throw Reid under the bus? How much longer will the taxpayers tolerate his $9 trillion deficit . . . which he appears to be trying to grow exponentially?<<

      You and I know $9 trillion is an economy busting burden but to most people anything higher than a million is a lot of money and they don't really distinguish a million, a billion, or a trillion. Hell, some people can't distinguish between $1000, $10,000, and $100,000.

      >>Am I mistaken in believing that Paulson and his Goldman Sachs machine should be the ones blamed for the bailout billions when Bush was in office? I think Paulson had Bush cowed, . . .<<

      Probably more like buffaloed as would be anyone not totally immersed in banking and finance. Hey we need a trillion to save the Republic or it dies next week. Give it to me with no strings, we can't wait or you'll go down as the last US president . . . well, OK but don't waste it. Don't worry, my friends and I know just what to do.

    • >>Does that [fear of a recurrence of Spanish flu] refresh your memory as to why in 1976 you thought it was a good idea to accept the vaccine? . . .<<

      Yes, and I just rememberd Gerald Ford was president when I got that shot, so that pretty well nails down the time frame to 1975-77. Not many other reasons why I'd get or take a free shot then.

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Aug 22, 2009 6:30 AM Flag

      >>I don't think Pelosi can. San Francisco probably loves her and however big of a comeback the Republicans might stage in 2010 it probably won't be enough to give them the speakership. Reid might be gone before 2010. He's not all that popular in Nevada and neither is the public option. To placate Nevadans he'll have to oppose it, so Obama will throw him under the bus. Obama has to have the public option or an equivalent. It's the only path to socialized medicine available.<<

      Oh, so that's why Reid has been more mild-mannered than Pelosi with this bill. How sure are you that Obama will still be around to throw Reid under the bus? How much longer will the taxpayers tolerate his $9 trillion deficit . . . which he appears to be trying to grow exponentially?

      I read that some recent day this month was when American taxpayers started earning for themselves. Until that date, every penny they earned went to the government.

      "News" articles talk about Bush's deficit. Am I mistaken in believing that Paulson and his Goldman Sachs machine should be the ones blamed for the bailout billions when Bush was in office? I think Paulson had Bush cowed, and there were those clandestine meetings of the Democrats behind closed doors and Pelosi's rigging so that the Republicans couldn't read the bill before voting. Though every single one of them should have voted No and announced their No votes were because they refused to vote for an unread bill. Who needs Guantanamo to house criminals when you have the White House and Congress?

    • pantone101naturalblondie pantone101naturalblondie Aug 21, 2009 4:51 PM Flag

      >>It wasn't really all that high risk, it was just riskier than the flu itself . . . which if one knew one wouldn't take the shot. But you couldn't know that until after the flu went away.<<

      One death from the swine flu certainly didn't add up to high risk, but 25 of the deaths were from respiratory failure due to the Guillain-Barre Syndrome, which has no cure, can be seriously debilitating for years, and can be fatal. To its credit, the government in 1976 halted the vaccinations when the risk became known. I wonder if the current regime would keep vaccine-induced deaths secret and continue vaccinating people.

      The side of the coin that you've probably forgotten (and I wasn't aware of then but learned from the UK article) is that the vaccine was developed and given, even for free like you got yours, to as many people as possible BECAUSE it was feared that the swine flu strain was like that of the 1918–1919 pandemic that KILLED 20 MILLION people . . . including half a million in America.

      Does that refresh your memory as to why in 1976 you thought it was a good idea to accept the vaccine? If I'd been aware of the reason for it, I probably would've sought a doctor or clinic and paid for that vaccine if I didn't come upon it free like you did.

      Gulp, I missed this when I read Medline's page on GBS:

      <Some people may get Guillain-Barre syndrome after a bacterial infection or certain vaccinations (such as rabies and swine flu). . . .>

      The swine flu connection was probably learned from the swine flu vaccination, but I had no idea a rabies vaccination can also induce GBS. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

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