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  • healthy8532 healthy8532 Jan 7, 2010 11:08 AM Flag

    What do you guys think?

    I am looking at the top ten holdings of VTSMX. It has GE BAC and all the others. Here is my thought: if we really recover from the crisis, this fund has quite upside. That is big "if", I know. But the Fed can not raise rate, MM still is nothing. What do you long term investors think?

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      10/12/98 $21.96
      04/15/99 $29.10
      10/07/99 $29.09
      04/06/00 $34.03
      03/16/01 $25.38

      04/16/02 $25.67
      04/21/03 $20.37
      10/07/04 $26.63
      02/11/05 $28.59
      12/20/05 $30.34
      01/18/06 $30.82
      01/19/06 $31.03
      01/23/06 $30.55
      03/09/06 $30.81
      03/01/07 $34.08
      03/29/07 $34.43
      04/11/07 $34.87
      11/23/07 $34.78
      01/08/08 $33.36
      01/23/08 $32.16
      03/18/08 $32.09
      07/16/08 $30.39
      09/08/08 $31.02
      09/24/08 $28.99
      09/30/08 $28.42
      10/10/08 $21.85
      11/13/08 $21.94
      08/12/09 $24.80
      10/01/09 $25.39
      10/29/09 $26.15
      12/18/09 $27.25
      01/29/10 $26.49
      02/24/10 $27.39
      03/29/10 $29.08
      04/07/10 $29.41
      05/07/10 $27.60
      08/25/10 $26.21

    • yes they are. When you sadi 1992 was your start I looked at mine. Roth IRA, $2k a year no matter what.

      And yes hcbk, cvx, noc, intc, unfortunately I admit to owning some amd as well and a few other losers. vlo for one :(

      also still have 1 CD that goes until 6/12 at 5.4% also in another ira.

    • Are those your buy dates? I've made 43 separate buys, or a bit more than two per year on average. Presumably you are long CVX and HBCK as I am...

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    • Gotta love the low expense ratio with VTSAX. Tough for me to consistently beat VTSAX's returns hence most of my new investment money goes into this fund. Great (relative) returns and very efficient tax wise) If only I started earlier than I did....1992.
      Cheers

    • mine too is now vtsax, i qualified for the admiral account so they moved me into it.

    • I have both my non retirement and ROTH brokerage accounts with Fidelity. As a result, I own FSTMX in my ROTH (Vanguard is not an option or at least is wasn't when I bought).
      I own VTSAX directly with Vanguard.
      VTSMX has .18% expense ratio...VTSAX's is .07% and FSTMX has a .10% expense ratio. That said, I'm assuming due to different distribution policies/dates, FTSMX TOTAL return for 2010 was 17.41% v VTSAX's 17.26% return.

      Cheers

    • same results and I bet Fidelity fees are higher.

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FSTMX&t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=vtsmx

    • in an ira and it is a boatload of stocks. I don't trade it, i have bought for 12 years now and am way up and do not worry about it.

    • "I'd call it an average to above average fund."

      First, VTSMX is an Index fund, one that mimics the total market. If one wanted to trade the total market, VTI would be the appropriate choice. VTSMX is "average"? Using what metric? Surely not cost. As the market goes, so goes VTSMX. Pretty simple. Do you keep track of your annual returns? If so, and if you CONSISTENTLY outperform VTSMX on an annual basis, kudos to you. Some years I do beat the index and some I don't; as a result almost all new investments I make are in VTSAX; over 29% of all my equity investments (including 401K and ROTH) are in this fund or FSTMX and the percentage invested in this "average" fund will increase as the years go by.

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