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  • moses_on_wall_street moses_on_wall_street Jul 4, 2007 1:43 PM Flag

    What does the 4th of July really mean any longer? part 1 part 2

    We do not observe it any longer as the country that was given birth to that day has long been dead. The replacement entity usurps the day in order to continue the charade for WE THE PEOPLE, but that number is diminishing daily as the truth of the matter spreads.

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    • The High Cost of Libby�s Silence
      Posted on Jul 3, 2007

      By Amy Goodman

      �We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,� says the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. Unless, of course, you are a friend of the president. By commuting �Scooter� Libby�s sentence, President Bush is also protecting himself and Vice President Dick Cheney.

      I asked former Ambassador Joe Wilson what he thought about the commutation. It was his 2003 opinion piece that refuted Bush�s claim that Iraq had sought uranium from Africa. In retaliation, the White House leaked the name of his wife, Valerie Plame, and her CIA identity. Wilson said, �It casts a cloud of suspicion over the president and begs the question whether the president is participating in an ongoing obstruction of justice and cover-up of criminal activity within the White House.� I asked him how: �By ensuring that Libby will have no incentive to talk with the special prosecutor.�

      Prisoners often cooperate with government prosecutors in exchange for leniency. With the prison sentence gone, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald loses his leverage over Libby. While Bush and his subordinates stress that Libby still faces a $250,000 fine, the Libby Legal Defense Trust was set up to help him out.

      Among the listed trustees are former senator, TV actor and likely Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson, and former CIA director and Iraq war booster James Woolsey. Woolsey�s firm lobbied for the Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi�s CIA-funded group that provided faulty intelligence in the lead-up to the war. Woolsey was also a member of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and involved with the Project for the New American Century, two influential groups that helped provide intellectual cover and political muscle for the invasion of Iraq. Given the power and wealth represented on his fundraising team, Libby will do just fine with his fine.

      Blogger Marcy Wheeler, who followed the Libby trial closely, told me: �In some ways, commutation is worse [for the cause of justice] than a pardon. With a commutation, Scooter Libby retains his Fifth Amendment rights.� If Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., for example, were to call a hearing, Libby could still plead the Fifth Amendment against self-incrimination, remaining silent. Had he been pardoned and been completely cleared of any wrongdoing, then he would have a harder time refusing to answer questions. Libby�s continued silence protects Bush and Cheney.

      The commutation also allows the Bush administration to remain silent. As Bush said, �I have said throughout this process that it would not be appropriate to comment or intervene in this case until Mr. Libby�s appeals have been exhausted.�

      So the commutation ensures that Libby will not cooperate with Fitzgerald, and will not cooperate with Congress. Why does this matter? Because this case is not about obstruction of justice, it is not about perjury. Ultimately, this case is about war.

      The Bush administration�s case for war depended on false claims about weapons of mass destruction. President George H.W. Bush hailed Wilson as �a true American hero� for his role as acting U.S. ambassador to Iraq when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990. But when Wilson publicly debunked the George W. Bush administration�s claim about African uranium, he was attacked, his wife was outed, her career ruined. Her job: an undercover CIA operative investigating weapons of mass destruction. This week, the United Nations formally closed down its weapons search program in Iraq, the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission. So much for WMD.

    • Good Stuff Moses!.. A very sharp former IRS lady speaks out..

      Has anyone seen a movie titled 'Tucker'.. I discovered a DVD copy in a $5.99 bin at my American distributor of primarily Chinese manufactured products up here in Canada.. My friendly auto junk yard dealer told me about this fellow only a few days ago.. It's really crazy that I'd never heard of Tucker in my lifetime and have been an automobile enthusiast since about 1965 when I became disillusioned with North American Autos and started buying European for want of improvements being held back here.

      Way back at the end of WW2 Tucker ran head long into the Military/ Industrial Complex, the Media, the Courts and the SEC where the spirit of American inventors became unwelcome. They even flashed a poster of Nicola Tesla in the background just for added effect. He was another American Inventor who hit the wall.. This was what General Dwight Eisenhower warned against as he stepped down from the Presidency.

      Perhaps The Fourth should now be a day of Mourning but I would rather see it becoming a day of Revival of that great American Spirit where if you could make it better you would see a bright future, and your fellows and your country would joyfully receive the benefits as the competition was forced to improve accordingly or die.

      Three cheers for the Tuckers! To hell with the perfect business plan.. We will just forge ahead!


    • Yet another reply:

      Today is Independence Day, July 4th 2007. Today Americans will spend this most important of all America's holidays having cookouts, picnics, eating, drinking, shooting fireworks, attending parades, etc, etc. The news media will flash American Icons like the statue of liberty across TV screens & newspapers.

      Not once will any of them give an account of how & why these European / Americans fought for their independence from the British.

      Not once will they tell how the founding fathers suffered & sacrificed to build a nation for themselves & their descendants. To the last man, everyone who had a hand in the designing of America's newly formed government & making this country become a reality were European / Americans.

      They came here to build a country for all Europeans who could not have certain freedoms their way in their old countries. The right to worship, own guns and most importantly to have a nation that would listen & was responsive to the needs of its citizens

      Yes today will be like every other politically correct 4th of July, we will be shown the superficial trimmings of the holiday but, not the true substances America was built upon. If the founding fathers could see that their original documents have been made null & void & that the America they built has become a world empire they would climb out of their graves & the revolution to get it back would be on again.

      Of course, they would have to do this task as today's Americans don't have a fraction of what it takes to even give a remote thought to real freedom as it was intended to be.

    • From another forum:

      What does the 4th of July mean to you?

      I would venture to say that to most (aka the great unwashed) it means little more than beer, barbeque, volleyball and pretty girls in shorts and tank tops. To many, it has some sort of muddled meaning being diffused and blended with the Constitution and other elements of the "founding." Some even associate it with "patriotism" (which they erroneously confuse with "nationalism"), Old Glory, and the uS government.

      It is indeed, none of the above. It is supposed to be a "celebration" of the signing of the Declaration of Independence--a revolutionary document like none other in the history of mankind--a document of secession.

      I hope you will take the time to read it completely. As you do, please pay particular attention to the listing of the "long train of abuses and usurpations" resulting in "absolute despotism...repeated injuries and usurpations...and the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states."

      As you read, insert "It" (the FedGov) where you see "He" (the King) and substitute the current facts and sorry state of affairs. If you will do that, you will discover that today is no longer a day of "celebration." It is a day of "mourning." And while you read, think secession!

      Yours for freedom in our lifetimes.

      thegunny, 419

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